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  1. Marvel's Captain America: Civil War

    #1019262016-05-02 16:11:38 *Rinneko said:


    Rating: PG13

    Genres: Action, Adventure, Science Fiction, Fantasy

    Sequel to: Captain America: the First Avenger, Captain America: Winter Soldier

    Release date: 6 May 2016


    • Chris Evans as Steve Rogers/Captain America
    • Robert Downey Jr as Tony Stark/Ironman
    • Scarlett Johansson as Natasha Romanoff/Black Widow
    • Sebastian Stan as James "Bucky" Barnes/Winter Soldier
    • Anthony Mackie as Sam Wilson/Falcon
    • Don Cheadle as James "Rhodey" Rhodes/War Machine
    • Chadwick Boseman as T'Challa/Black Panther
    • Elizabeth Olsen as Wanda Maximoff/Scarlet Witch
    • Paul Bettany as Vision
    • Jeremy Renner as Clint Barton/Hawkeye
    • Paul Rudd as Scott Lang/Antman
    • Tom Holland as Peter Parker/Spiderman (the young 'un!)


    Marvel’s "Captain America: Civil War" finds Steve Rogers leading the newly formed team of Avengers in their continued efforts to safeguard humanity. But after another incident involving the Avengers results in collateral damage, political pressure mounts to install a system of accountability, headed by a governing body to oversee and direct the team. The new status quo fractures the Avengers, resulting in two camps—one led by Steve Rogers and his desire for the Avengers to remain free to defend humanity without government interference, and the other following Tony Stark’s surprising decision to support government oversight and accountability.

    tl;dr Captain America vs Ironman

    Any opinions, feelings and/or expectations about the latest Marvel movie?

  2. #1019332016-05-02 19:52:16 *Kirn said:

    Since I only get movies when they are available for pirating, I won't see this one soon. Maybe in 3-4 months. Still, I know, from trailers, that it's pretty much Cap vs Stark... and I am obviously all up for Iron Man. Better hero, better actor, better personality, and I know that this is Cap's movie, but fuck you all, I will always vote for Iron Man.

    Now, obviously that choice is made outside of this particular movie knowledge. Who knows, maybe Stark is really wrong this time. Fuck you all anyways, I vote for Tony.

  3. #1019392016-05-03 00:11:34Lieutenant said:

    Watched it. Love it. Obviously Team Ironman for me. I wouldn't say one is wrong and right, more like they had their reasons to be so. Anyways.

  4. #1019442016-05-03 00:54:12 *judar said:

    Team Cap because he is a saint, an angel, a gift from heaven and I want to lick the ground he walks upon. Plus I like Bucky too much, he's all sorts of tragic! Hopefully gonna watch this soon so I can cry in the theatre like a fuckin loser.

    edit: i lied i onyl care about black panther who the fuck is captain america? who?

  5. #1025622016-05-14 15:32:51 *Rinneko said:

    @armedzerox My opinion is that Cap and Ironman should just get together already ;)

    Civil War didn't excite me as much as I thought it would. To be fair, my expectations of it were running high due to the history of this franchise.

    I think CW had plenty of potential: characters with their own well-received backstories, budget for good action, conflict between allies. However, I felt that the pacing was too equal. There was little weightage placed on what I would consider 'climax' scenes. Not enough time was given to see how the characters' felt about the scene. The audience did not have enough time to digest the impact of the scene, which I admit might just be the by-product of the action genre. Every scene felt pretty much equal in importance to me. Spoilers: An example I would cite is the argument between Cap and Ironman in the conference room. Wasn't that supposed to be the focus of this movie: the conflict? In my opinion, it felt just like every other moment. Another relatively significant scene would be the implementation of the UN restrictions. We did not seem to be privy to the Avengers' deliberation process.

    Additionally, the characters were unable to be individually developed. I think this was unavoidable due to the sheer number of sparkly characters. However, this left me wracking my brains for just who the characters were and their history in the previous Marvel movies. I would recommend marathoning the Marvel Cinematic Universe before watching CW, unless you are naturally a consistent fan. Spoilers: It didn't help that Spiderman's personality was slightly different from his personal movies, barring its adorable nature.

    Lastly, I felt that CW ended too abruptly. I honestly checked my watch during the action and was surprised that the movie was almost due to be over. Surely, the conclusion could not come so soon? Spoilers: Cap and Ironman enter a life-threatening brawl with one another. Suddenly, being physically apart from one another is enough to appease their ideological differences?

    Now, this is a minor point, but I felt like the entire CW was a satire. You know how people are always complaining about how the collateral damage in superhero movies get brushed off? Mm, I felt like that they took that point of view and made it into a large point of concern in CW. I don't know if others have noticed or that was the original aim, though.

  6. #1065932016-09-01 15:59:55 *Kirn said:

    Well, I finally watched it. And... yes, team Iron Man, all the way. He was right exactly from the beginning, he was the reasonable one, for a change, at the start of the movie, and he was the one hurt the most in the middle and at the ending. All while Cap was throwing a tantrum.

    Here's a fun thing: this time there was a distinctive lack of anything really major happening. Lemme explain. Avengers - New-York gets destroyed. Cap: Winter Soldier - 3 carriers get dropped on Washington. Avengers 2 - whole city is thrown into the planet. Hell, they shown all of that in this movie as examples of destruction.
    But nothing like that in here. At most, a building in Africa got blown up. And that's because this time they fight between each other, and not against some villain. Villain are megalomaniacs, and make huge stuff that explodes fantastically. Heroes themselves are actually much less flashy.
    That's what was lacking, I think. Zemo is not a usual megalomaniac villain, so there's no huge doomsday plot. And that's why even at the huge 12 superheroes battle it felt like the scale is not like it used to be. I am not saying that it's necessarily a bad thing, but it's certainly uncommon for a superhero movie.

    Also, I will go out and say it right fucking here: I liked Spiderman. Mostly because I pretty much hated how they did Spiderman in both previous franchises. Too much fucking teen angst. This guy is so much simpler and closer to the core of what I consider right Spiderman character... He is fun, he never shuts up, he kicks ass. Minus all the bullshit drama.
    I am also somewhat intrigued by the Black Panther character. Mostly because he looks cool as fuck. Black, yep. As far as I know, they are making movie for him specifically, so that would be interesting to watch, I imagine.

    All in all... I think, this can be a transition to a more grim setting for these movies. Though, maybe not. For all we know, for next Avengers movie they all may immediately recover and be good buddies again.

    Oh, also, have a cheat-sheet for Marvel movies: http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/800e/a6kkkr69f8o2pubzg.jpg Though, it's from 2015, so some speculation is already incorrect.