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Parent: CL Update 2019 [Retirement Edition]

  1. #1154242019-01-14 06:32:21 *DarkChaplain said:

    I don't think anyone's capable of reviving the site.

    Not with that attitude there isn't, @Kinnear. Frankly, there are a bunch of ways to attempt it. Some would involve further outreach and pseudo-advertisement, others would be about actually maintaining activity when it happens and channeling it further into forum-based activities, since the forum is the only stable part we've got, with chat's activity being entirely incidental.
    The problem is that we're stuck with the top brass that we got, where social media channels and what not are controlled by somebody who does not give a shit, and hasn't in year. Somebody who has made promises time and again to improve and things shit, and 5 years later we're still riding on insecure http, with many bugs and problems still running rampant from as far back as my admin time. Not even to mention of visual facelifts the site could have had years ago, as staff back then actually proposed.
    There was a lot of engagement within and without staff to improve the site and engage users, but all of it evaporated. A lot of that had to do with being stonewalled by the owner and admin, who was the sole person with server access at the time, and Jack, who finally got server access, got screwed by not being told a thing about it, basically.

    From what I can see, the apathy of the upper echelon has completely eroded the motivation of staff over the years, which in turn reduced stable activity on forum and chat from those who used to be pillars of the community, which in turn led to nobody being the fuck around when new folks joined, prompting them to leave, and only exacerbated problems that existed.

    When the owner of the site doesn't give a shit anymore and can't be bothered to prepare contingencies or - Emperor be damned - FIX THE PROBLEMS when they occur and prevent them from reoccuring all the time - then frankly, it'd probably be best to completely salt the earth and just start over elsewhere with a new site, a fresh identity and learn from the mistakes.
    Though frankly, I'd rather see that avoided and instead get some people who give a damn in to rework the site as it is, without being stonewalled by people who can't even be bothered to follow staff discussions and makes wrong choices left and right, if he even bothers choosing at all.

    Now here's a radical idea: Bring Rune back. At least then we'd have another three dozen alt accounts samefagging on chat to simulate some form of life on the site :^)

    Bottom line is, I believe that CL can be restored to at least decent activity. It was pretty damn good up until around fall 2017, which incidentally was also when certain staff people dropped dead. That people still come and wonder why CL is offline and when it will be back up, and got upset about losing their MeriKuri moments with their chat friends shows to me that, yes, there is a desire among the users to see this site thrive. Hell, I'll even admit to wanting it to succeed myself.

    The question is, will it get the chance to, or be left in the dust to further rot while the site's owner plays more League of Losers? Which kind of brings me back to the initial point: If he doesn't give a fuck and doesn't want to maintain the site, he should pass it the fuck on already, like the numerous admins before him.

    But no, @Kinnear, I don't think anyone would be capable of reviving CL. Because it's not a solo effort. It's not anyone we need look for, but everyone doing their part, instead of relying on powers that be while lamenting the decline of this particular shithole. It's a shithole, but it's a shithole we all have had a part in decorating, and one we all have fond memories of for some reason. Even the Shovelboy, believe it or not. People just aren't coordinated enough to actually break out of their melancholy for long enough to start enjoying this site again like they used to, and the more we all lament, the less incentive is there to spread the word, share the site, or grow our community in other ways. Because at some point, the pathetic state of it all becomes a point of shame, where in the early years, being part of this community was a flag of twisted pride. I'd like to witness those days returning, truth be told.