i love bleach,naruto,and one piece
I almost agree with everything you say apart from no. 1, no.1 is completely off the mark for most annoying anime fans in my opinion, I often get called weeaboo for watching nearly everything with english subs and Japanese audio, but the thing is I have rarely seen a good dub, I will praise a good dub where there is one like Full Metal Panic for example, but no in reality the Japanese voice actors are nearly always better, American voices just dont cut it in my opinion
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I often get called weeaboo
... Oh, I've got a nice place for you~
Mirroring the other responses, I am shocked and appalled that the weeaboos did not make the list. But then again, there is a thread dedicated to hating on them, alone...
I like all of the big three.... Yaoi it's funny lol and I hate wen ppl say dubs suck so Im wit u
@Sol420 As a fan of Op, Bleach and Naruto, I also can't stand fans of one of them bad-mouthing the other two shows. I mean, if they weren't different, that would be called plagiarism. As for the rest of your "rant" I agree on most part that those kind of fans annoy me, although I can be found in some those groups you mentioned. With one big difference, I don't hate on people who think opposite of me.
I am a huge Sekirei fan so I really like #4
As for the others, I think dubs in some are great but in others, it makes the characters sound stupid.
(personally) I think yaoi is just messed up.
The big three have changed too much, naruto became a drama, One Piece now drags on too long on something that could be explained in a single episode and bleach is mostly filler arcs.
I also hate people that type things in a crappy Japanese (ex. kawiee) at least they could use the correct characters (ex. かわいい) but they should really just say cute.
I know a person that tries to imitate accents, it bugs the hell out of me.
I don't hate Yaoi nor I'm scared of it but I just don't like when my favorite (and respected? lol) characters are involved >.<
I must say I agree with this, however it is still kind of a broad subject. Usually its best to find a good mix (except on the extremes right?)
examples: I read Naruto and watch one piece but won't watch bleach simply because it is to long and doesn't interest me. You say hey wait Naruto and one piece are just as long... true but I started them when I was in elementary school and back then they didn't seem to long.
I prefer sub because I practice hearing Japanese and because I feel that sometimes the emotions need to be done by the Japanese voice actor that was direct by the anime director, makes sense to me.... And then I watch Dragonball Z where my ears bleed watching Japanese, or Megaman or Pokemon... All the leads are female voice actors or the names are changed to what I wasn't familiar with when I was a kid.
I am an adult but started young, will I grow out of it? no however... well I don't think I would hand Berserk to a elementary school kid, or for that matter D. Grey Man to a middle school-er... however that largely depends on your morals there can be an adult who would be outraged if a small child (under 13) got to see panty shots... and then there are those who reference that 13 year old's were having babies a millennium ago... oh well let them read their graphics.
Yaoi... well I never understood it being male but I have come to accept it as part of anime culture. Let's face it; sometimes kakashixikura makes you laugh. Point is, I feel that this is one of the few ways girl otakus get their giggle or whatever so let them be. I just ignore them and don't read over their shoulders.
As for the names... never heard of it before.
Just my two cents and how I feel I fit in this puzzle. I think this subject applies mostly to how much they have watched and their age. That's all.
Yaoi ain't THAT bad, as long as it's not too... err, revealing. [>>;]
Ohh? Okaay. I take back wut i said. [ ~ ~ ]
you know, i think that a lot of this has to do with some weird form of jealousy that anime fans (or people who like japan in general) have towards each other. 'omg i hate this kind of fan they're soooo annoying ;_;' seriously? you're all fucking children, so stop hating on each other. i went to university in japan and am fluent in japanese (because i study ancient japanese art), and you know what? when i was there, i never met a single white person who wasn't a total douche about other white people who like japan (and i mean that, WHITE person. other foreigners were not like this at all). it's like you guys think you own the fucking culture or something. get over yourselves. none of you understand a goddamned thing real about japan, you're all in the same ignorant boat trying to push each other out. there is no such thing as a 'bad' fan, except one who doesn't appreciate. if other fans bother you, THAT'S YOUR PROBLEM. and you don't need to be communicating with other fans anyway, now do you? you can like anime perfectly well on your own! who knew? and on your last point, which is the only one that is really important, anime should be subbed rather than dubbed because it's respectful to the artist, and more importantly, because japanese culture is so vastly different from any western culture that you can't even get CLOSE to expressing the original voices and emotions in english. at least with subs you can absorb the emotion through inflections even if you don't understand the exact nuance of what a character is saying. if you don't want to experience the 'japaneseness' of anime, then why the fuck are you watching it?
@100101011 Good thing you're fluent in Japanese because your English grammar pretty much sucks.
i think that a lot of this has to do with some weird form of jealousy that anime fans (or people who like japan in general)
So as an argument you've made your first fatal error. This cannot possibly apply to every single person who has ever become interested in anime, manga, or the Japanese culture in general. Instead you've made this out to look like a childish rant. (Even more so because of your lack of capitalization.)
Another point I'd like to make is that first and foremost you're neglecting to take into account how people view anime. For example some may see it as a form of entertainment. Some may see it as a way to learn of a different culture. And some people, myself included, view it as an art form. (Like movies and comics.)
you're all fucking children, so stop hating on each other
From my point of view people aren't really hating on each other by expressing their opinions. Just like with anything else there are things people like and there are things they don't.
it's like you guys think you own the fucking culture or something. get over yourselves.
I'm not really sure how someone can own a culture as it's something developed by the people who participate in it. Nor do I know how someone would come to consider themselves the owner of a culture simply by stating their opinion.
Also...You're the one who seems to be taking on the most airs right now.
ignorant boat trying to push each other out. there is no such thing as a 'bad' fan, except one who doesn't appreciate.
Oh contraire... A few things that make a 'bad' fan are ignorance, false pride, and pretentious airs. (A bit like you seem to be doing...)
Anyway you're overreacting. This is an opinion thread. Everybody's entitled to having an opinion and they can share it if they want. If it bothers you to hear others opinions you best stay out of opinion threads.
anime should be subbed rather than dubbed because it's respectful to the artist, and more importantly, because japanese culture is so vastly different from any western culture that you can't even get CLOSE to expressing the original voices and emotions in english.
I'm not sure I really agree with what you're saying here. Indeed watching an anime with subs is a very different experience from watching it with English dub. But I'm not sure I'd exclusively say you should watch all anime with subs. What about the anime's that are supposed to take place in other countries? (Example: Baccano) Or what about the animes that are created by people from different countries? Have you considered that perhaps there are different values expressed in these animes besides the ones excusively from Japan?
That said I dislike when anime fans exclusively watch dubs and personally I can't stand watching the majority of dubs. Most often this is because there is a tendency to have the lead female character played by someone with a ridiculously whiny and high voice. I agree that when watching a dub a lot of the cultural value is neglected and this is why I think fans should include both when watching anime.
Another type of fan I dislike are the pretentious ones. I.E. the fans who like to correct you on various things but in all actuality they have no idea what they are talking about. For example I have a friend who likes to correct me on how I pronounce Japanese names and such, not having ever watched a subbed anime before so she only uses English pronunciation.
Fan Shippings that don't make sense. It's kind of annoying when two characters who have shown no sort of romantic attraction show up embracing, red faced, as they fumble trying to undress each other. Especially when one or both of them have already been shown being in love with someone else in their story.
I think that's about it for fans that I dislike...
Also I am aware this user hasn't showed up in over a year but who knows since I tagged him maybe he'll show up.
Number 5: I love Naruto (It was the first anime I first saw KNOWING it was Anime) I also like Bleach and I haven´t seen One Piece before but I do believe people should respect what other people like to watch.
Number 4: I understand Not ALL animes are meant for mature people but not ALL animes are for kids eather... I mean I would be glad to see my 5 year old cousin watching Sakura Card Captor or Candy Candy but I wouldn´t be so happy if I saw her watching Neon Genesis Evangelion or Elfen Lied. I do believe there are animes that are meant for mature people only there are also animes for all the family or for kids (and not so mature people.. hehehe.. just kidding).
Number 3: I´m a Yaoi Fan Girl and I´m proud of it... however I haven´t gotten to the stage where I see yaoi everywhere (And I know I won´t get there)I watch yaoi as long as I´m watching a yaoi manga/anime... and when I watch something else I watch it for what it is (if you know what I mean...Although I´m not sure of what I mean myself.. eheh... sorry)
Number 2:I haven´t met anyone of these people yet but I do believe you should say the words correctly... as they were meant to be... don´t you think so too? sure, it might sound funny once or twice but then you just look idiotic.
Number 1: In my first years as an Otaku I only watched dubs however one day I discovered subs and now every new anime I see, I only watch them with japanese audio and english or spanish subs because I´ve heard some dubs and some of them are just horrible (english or spanish) but this does not apply to anime only... I only watch movies in their native language with subs because I do feel the original voices express more feelings that the dub ones although the old animes that I´ve always seen with spanish dubs; I wouldn´t be able watch them in any other language because it would feel weird for me... like DDZ, SCC, Samurai X, Inuyasha, etc... so it really depends on every person.. but if you like dubs over subs good for you....
Now, all of this is just my opinion and even though, I might disagree with other people´s opinions I have to respect them because every person thinks different than the one who´s next to you.. right?
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I'm late to the party, but here are my two cents:
First off, even US television has cartoons for a young adult audience. South Park and Adult Swim and the like. But it's the exception, not the rule.
Secondly, most fan dubs and a fair few official dubs have voice actors that REALLY GRIND MY GEARS. And, I'm not too stupid to read and watch a movie at the same time. So don't judge me if I turn my nose up at your dubs.
@Sol420 I think you got #5 and #1 in the wrong order
I think #5 people should be the most hated cause from my understanding, the people of my school who talk about anime (which is rare), only talk about the Big 3 and a little of others (hetalia or deathnote).
It annoys the fuck out of me that those types of people think that they know a bunch of animes/mangas because they go to Barns&nobles; and watch adult swim.
The funny thing is they still think they know more animes and challanged me on the number of titles out there. And they still think I made up 75% of the titles i name, despite the face i did just come from japan and did live there for 1/3 of my life.
Dub haters, dont be haters.
Yaoi fans- Im a yaoi fan/ bisexual so "FEar Mi". got to keep ya options open
And for Weeaboo fans, you guys are just... stop acting like us asians. Its really anoying, and partly creepy for a black guy to act asian.(No racism intended)
@SENsei: It's too bad you can't spell America while you're touching yourself.
Must be a Freudian thing...
This is America.
Hey hey. You. yes you.
When I talk to @SENsei and discuss anime eg. I do not say "Daily Lives of High School Boys NOR DO I SAY 男子高校生の日常 We refer to them as Nichibroz Yes Nichibroz.
We also don't say 僕は友達が少ない We say Haganai.
We call Homura the following : Homuhomu Homerun, etc We call Madoka the following : Meguka Megukami
By the way I'm studying the History of Japanese Anime at my college. I am not a weeabo. Also Ghost in Shell is intended for more "Mature" Audiences. Yay.
eg. I do not say "Daily Lives of High School Boys NOR DO I SAY 男子高校生の日常 We refer to them as Nichibroz Yes Nichibroz.
That's what everyone that's watched it refer it as.
yea...yaoi fans are creepy, and im a dub hater, but not to that extent...i hope