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  1. Aaron's Law Introduced Today

    #597202013-06-20 22:27:27 *Trev said:

    The CFAA is the law under which Aaron and other innovators and activists have been threatened with decades in prison. It is so broad that law enforcement says it criminalizes all sorts of mundane Internet use: Potentially even breaking a website's fine print terms of service agreement. Don't set up a MySpace page for your cat. Don't fudge your height on a dating site. Don't share your Facebook password with anybody: You could be committing a federal crime.

    Rep. Zoe Lofgren and Sen. Ron Wyden just introduced "Aaron's Law", which would fix some of the worst parts of the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act (CFAA), including those which make it a potential crime to violate terms of service agreements -- that fine print that nobody reads at the bottom of a website.

  2. #597422013-06-21 07:28:17Sogran said:

    Wait, what? The law was setup in the US as such that violations of ToS could be considered a federal crime? You would think that any legal action (as well as denial of service such as bans and the like) would have been entirely between the service provider and the consumer. Huh. Glad they're getting on that. Even more happy that I'm not American; not that that has ever stopped the US gov. from pressing charges before.

  3. #597462013-06-21 15:01:39 *hellstorm901 said:

    Just to ask. Does the United States not operate a similar justice system to the United Kingdom?

    In the UK no matter how absurd a law may be the ground rule is if "A prosecution is only carried through if it is in public interest to do so." Which is generally why people generally don't go to prison for insane things here.

    Does the US not have a similar system or is summoning people to trial in the US just fair game as long as someone is motivated to launch a case?

  4. #598172013-06-23 13:06:52DarkChaplain said:

    @Gargron Well, according to recent statistics, only about a third of Germans even feel like the current PRISM scandal and its effects will have any bearing on their privacy or lives....

    I doubt many people here actually get things like these

  5. #598512013-06-23 21:23:32hellstorm901 said:

    Because after the Drummer Lee Rigby murder there's generally mixed thought about whether intelligence agencies such as GCHQ watching us may in fact be a necessary evil that we should live with.

    Many people I've met have said that "If you've done nothing wrong you have nothing to hide" and their belief that spying is needed as I said has only intensified recently. Having a soldier getting his head chopped off outside his barracks in broad daylight generally does put the need to fight terrorism back in peoples minds.

    If PRISM had broke before that then there might be a unified opposition to the revelations but it becomes difficult for those critical of it to try and make the argument that spying is just an illegal overreaction when the threat is put before your eyes on TV.

    We all wish for a world where privacy can be respected but the reality is we do in fact live in a world where a good number of people plot horrific things in private and without spying then our first line of defense would be gone. Counter Terrorism works best when acting proactive on intelligence. A reactive Counter Terrorism policy is when all else has failed and by that point people generally start dying before the threat is gone.

  6. #598712013-06-24 01:35:30johan_5179 said:

    PRISM is different because of the freedom it gives to the US government to swoop over the rest of the world. I don't think the US government is doing counter terrorism for the world.

    The problem with PRISM is not entirely one of privacy. Our governments do spy on us, but when we raise hell, they say what you just said and try to reason it out with us. Instead of bullshitting us with 'Hello. I am Obama and this is entirely legal' when it is not(he's telling you to 'Fuck off!).

  7. #598182013-06-23 13:27:36johan_5179 said:

    I made a full page rant on PRISM on my Facebook page and asked my few friends to share it. Because I am not an avid Facebook user, my status updates etc. receive good attention from my 78 friends. So, when I tell a stupid friend of mine to suck it, I get 30 likes. Actual concern like the PRISM rant? 2 likes and the only response was a link to a stupid Snowden meme. My fellow Arts students disappoint me severely.

  8. #598192013-06-23 13:30:28johan_5179 said:

    Point to be noted. These students will be among the top 10 % most-educated people in the country once they finish their degree.