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  1. Movies based on true stories.

    #632822013-09-04 09:58:52 *Kirn said:

    Hello one and all. You all know that, when I am not ranting on you, I like to watch different movies. And I enjoy the wide range of them. Now, most movies are pure fiction - based on original scenarios or on some books. However, some movies are based on (or claim to be based on) some actual events.
    Naturally, we all know that movies can't be completely true. Hey, it is Hollywood and we aren't talking documentaries here at all. Events will be made to entertain audience, script will follow some common movie-making guideline... Yes, movies will never be completely true. However, I do enjoy the notion of taking something interesting that really happened and bringing it to bigger audience. Because you can really find some interesting things.
    I will present you a few movies based on true events. I will give you three movies here, cause I like doing these things in threes. All movies here are not biopics. I personally am not too interested in movies that try to follow the lives of some famous people. No, I am much more interested in some events. Also, after I give my small list here, you are welcome to provide some similar movies with your recommendations too.

    The Hunting Party (2007)

    Three journalists meet in Bosnia and embark on a quest to find 'The Fox' - Bosnian war criminal who still haven't been caught by UN. Along the way they meet a lot of strange people among locals and among UN task force. And the most surprising thing of all - these three, who are not manhunters in any way, unexpectedly find the one they are looking for.
    So, this is a movie with Richard Gere. I usually do not like him, and I still don't, but this is one movie with him I tolerate. The movie is a sort of adventure/road-movie. It's entertaining and has very nice moments. It also features all the usual Hollywood hooks for those kind of things.
    So, get's get to the actual events part? I will put those in spoiler, because there will be spoilers there.
    First of all - we have to throw out all the Hollywood nonsense. The story about Simon dropping out of big news, the story about his personal revenge, the emotional ending, them actually meeting the war criminal. Those are made for people to feel more connected. Also, the cast is very simple - main hero with a backstory, solid supporting friend to a hero and a young inexperienced guy. So, those elements are fake, but if we throw them out, what is left?
    Surprisingly, there is left quite a lot. Sometime after the Balkan War five war journalists met in Sarajevo to walk familiar places and talk about old times. Along the way they talked about war criminals who were still not caught even with supposedly many people looking for them. Somewhere in that conversation they decided to try and find one of those. Yep, they were drunk. They also started it all as a joke, saying 'one or two days, if we won't find him in that time, we'll stop'. And the damnest thing of all is in a few days they actually found solid leads to the guy. The difference is that they, being serious enough people, followed protocol and passed the information to the authorities. After which they were somewhat harassed by those authorities a bit. So yes, the core of the story is true - it took some journalists literally a few days to find knows and searched for war criminal.

    For those interested in hearing the real story the movie is based on, here's the article about those events.

    The Emperor (2012)

    After USA occupied Japan, they started an investigation into Japanese war criminals - those who instigated the war. And the main problem of their investigation was the emperor's involvement in those events. General Douglas MacArthur (played by Tommy Lee Jones) orders General Bonner Fellers (Matthew Fox) to investigate this matter in ten days. And the fate of post-war Japan will be decided in those ten days.
    Historical movie, and those are always hard to judge. The movie feels very serious with a necessary touch of personal drama. All in all it has a sort of melancholic feel. It's also quite interesting. The movie shows a historical event which was really important to Japan and ultimately led to how Japan is today. Yep, with all the anime. At the same time the movie shows the mixed American attitude towards the whole issue.
    Okay, I have to say that I am not much of a historian, so I can only provide some thoughts:
    As with all historical movies, it's damn near impossible to know for sure how true fine details are. Especially on such an issue. Here we have Japan on one side and USA on the other. One side joined the war and attacked first, the other side nuked cities. One side was concerned about politics and public view, another side was trying to cover up the truth as best as they could.
    Quite honestly, I have no idea. Naturally, the whole love story is there to keep part of audience interested. However, the portrayal of main heroes - two generals involved in the issue - is also not fully correct. Would we get more if we look at the core of the story? Involvement of the emperor of Japan? Again, impossible to really judge how well the movie tells about that. The only thing I can do is assume people being people and say that the movie is too kind when portraying Japanese. Yes, harsh thing to say. Still, movie shows good thing - the start of restoration after horrible war. People should know about things like that and, quite possible, it's good to know about those things in a positive way.

    I wasn't able to find good article on this, so I can present you only two reviews. One and two. Don't read too much into those too.

    Pain & Gain

    Daniel Lugo (Mark Wahlberg) is a gym trainer with criminal past. One day he gets tired of not having what other people have and decides to take it for himself. He employs Adrian Doorbal (Anthony Mackie) and Paul Doyle (Dwayne Johnson) to start a kidnapping scheme. The one real problem these guys have, however, is that they all, while being strong and intimidating bodybuilders, are are morons.
    This is a Michael Bay movie, and with quite a low budget at that. This is a dark comedy, and it's funny and entertaining and I really laughed watching it. While watching it, however, it is easy to forget about it being a true story. Hell, they even remind it of you during the movie, just so you won't forget. But it really looks quite unbelievable.
    So, how true is it?
    This is a very interesting case of true story movie. Naturally, there are added events like attempted bank robbery or a victim helping to catch Daniel Lugo in the end. Added purely for entertainment value. However, if anything, the real events were greatly over-simplified. And for a good reason - full events would require whole dramatic TV-series.
    The cast are mixed bag of real and made up characters. For example, Dwayne Johnson character is mostly made up, based on other minor members of the gang. In real story there were a lot more people involved on different stages. In real life the story of the first victim and the result for that person were much more complex. Oh, and survivors of this thing and their relatives are right now damn angry about this movie. They say that it shows criminals in more positive way that they deserve.
    What about the core facts? Surprisingly for such an entertaining movie - it's all true. The gang of bodybuilders went on kidnapping spree killing two people in the process and trying to kill one more and grabbing a lot of money. And they were extremely dumb about it too. Smart at some points, but extremely dumb overall. And there were strippers. Oh, and scene with a barbeque outside? Yes, it is still a true story. This is something that actually happened about 20 years ago is Miami and if you think about it - it really was a horrible shit. And something that people should know - these things really happen.

    For those who don't want to read too much, here's short article about movie and real life. For those who are more interested here's a very long article with full story of all those events.

    There we go. As you see, I have some info on some movies and I have no real clue about another. I do consider those movies to be interesting and entertaining, but their real value is that they allowed me to know some facts about some real events. A lot of facts in some cases and mot so many in other cases. And I do enjoy that. So, if you know about similar movies, feel free to share.

  2. #632832013-09-04 11:13:19 *johan_5179 said:

    Boys don't Cry (1999)

    Boys Don't Cry is a 1999 American independent romantic drama film directed by Kimberly Peirce and co-written by Andy Bienen. The film is a dramatization of the real-life story of Brandon Teena, a trans man played in the film by Hilary Swank, who is beaten, raped and murdered by his male acquaintances after they discover he is anatomically female.


    Peirce researched Brandon Teena's life for over 5 years in order to get her facts right, and the only detail she fudged on purpose was that while in the movie Brandon's girlfriend declares that she would love him no matter what he was, the real life Lana Tisdel walked out on him. The rest of the movie is corroborated by interviews and police records.

    This movie carries johan's approval. Watch it.

    Argo (2012)

    Argo is a 2012 historical drama thriller film directed, co-produced by, and starring Ben Affleck. This dramatization is adapted from U.S. Central Intelligence Agency operative Tony Mendez's book The Master of Disguise and Joshuah Bearman's 2007 Wired article The Great Escape. The latter deals with the "Canadian Caper," in which Mendez led the rescue of six U.S. diplomats from Tehran, Iran, during the 1979 Iran hostage crisis.

    The most highly acclaimed movie of 2012, the film that catapulted Affleck to the heights at which he stands today. Here is what Affleck had to say about the film, regarding its accuracy

    Because we say it's based on a true story, rather than this is a true story, we're allowed to take some dramatic license.

    trans - We are smartass

    The Canadian role was severely downplayed and the British and New Zealand embassies who actually busted their balls over the operation were completely ignored, which pissed a lot of people off. But overall the movie is a very good representation of what went down, and is a good movie which people should watch.

    The Fighter (2010)

    The Fighter is a 2010 biographical sports drama film directed by David O. Russell, and starring Mark Wahlberg, Christian Bale, Amy Adams and Melissa Leo. The film centers on the life of professional boxer Micky Ward (Wahlberg) and his older half-brother Dicky Eklund (Bale). The film also stars Amy Adams as Micky's love interest, and Melissa Leo as Micky's and Dicky's mother.


    Now wake up you people and listen up. This movie right here is Christian Bale's crowning achievement. It is the movie that made me the rabid fan I am today. Bale is among the best actors I have ever seen, and this movie is why. Do you maggots understand?


    To the matter at hand, the movie is almost completely accurate in its representation and story, with a very few details changed that only a Micky Ward himself could have spotted, such as his streak in 1988 and such. But they were spotted, because Micky Ward himself starred in the movie as the on-screen Micky's coach. Yes, the two people on whom the story is based were always present on the set to help out. Accurate and a must-watch.

  3. #632842013-09-04 11:56:46Kirn said:


    Ah, thank you for that. I didn't know about the first movie at all, and I didn't really payed attention about that aspect of the third movie. But Argo I remember, and I can say that it's another good example - while not exactly correct, it's a thing showing us some astounding even that, while being really unusual, actually happened. I actually should have posted in too, but I couldn't remember that one at the time.

  4. #632942013-09-04 22:36:16Taro_Tanako said:

    All The Presidents Men

    An ancient movie from 1976 starring young Dustin Hoffman and Robert Redford. It tells the tale of conspiracy and politics during the Nixon Watergate thing. Hoffman and Redford are Carl Bernstein and Bob Woodward as the real life journos who broke the story. It's actually thrilling stuff seeing how they uncover the facts and how old school journalism works. There's some brilliant interplay between Hoffman and Redford and it's just a nice slice of classic (and real) American history.


  5. #632972013-09-04 23:31:42Rune said:

    The Hurricane (1999)


    The Hurricane tells the story of Rubin 'Hurricane' Carter, a black professional boxer who was convicted of triple murder and his life in incarceration. It stars Denzel Washington. The script itself was adapted from Lazarus and the Hurricane: The Freeing of Rubin "Hurricane" Carter (published in 1991), by Sam Chaiton and Terry Swinton, and The Sixteenth Round: From Number 1 Contender To #45472 (published in 1974), by Rubin "Hurricane" Carter himself.

    This movie is very long and very slow but I think it's pretty justified since it covers almost the entire life of the guy himself. Even if you might have guessed the ending prematurely (by either reading the wiki article or just figuring it out yourself), you would still find this movie interesting because it shows how Rubin's character is very dynamic and I think it seems pretty human. It's of course the usual 'Hero's Journey' template that Hollywood always uses but Denzel Washington portrays the guy so well that even the real Rubin Carter fell in love with his performance!

    So yeah, this movie contains great acting and a lot of storytelling. A must watch for people who actually listen to this little thing called 'dialogues' and not just look at mindless explosions and CG!

    The Conjuring (2013)

    Hey, I know, this one is probably a 'true story' kind of deal but unlike other horror movies, the story itself comes from the people who are involved in the 'incident' themselves rather than a very loose interpretation of a Hollywood writer. In fact, they even have the trailer where the Perron family, the family who experiences the hauntings and Lorraine Warren, the demonologist gets interviewed. Whether or not they were lying, they sure did tell one hell of a horror story!

    The film itself is one of those 'one-time' movies, the movies that you don't want to watch the second time. But the scare tactics and atmosphere in this movie is quite incredible that even if you don't believe in anything or even getting scared at anything, it's still a pretty good and entertaining movie. Not to mention it has a great music that builds up tension and for the most part, actually builds into something that is really scary rather than used as a deceiving tactic.

    Also, in my opinion, this movie would be best watched in the theatres because it's just fun to see people getting surprised and stuff. It's one of those horror movies that is actually better if it's watched together so if the theatre is not an option, gather some friends, families, etc. to watch with you!

    Will post more once I remember them.

  6. #632992013-09-05 00:48:16 *Kiboune said:

    Catch Me If You Can

    Catch Me If You Can is a 2002 American biographical crime comedy-drama film based on the life of Frank Abagnale, who, before his 19th birthday, successfully performed cons worth millions of dollars by posing as a Pan American World Airways pilot, a Georgia doctor, and a Louisiana parish prosecutor. His primary crime was check fraud;

  7. #633282013-09-05 22:16:10Kirn said:

    @Taro_Tanako damn, this sounds seriously interesting. In fact, I will watch it this week, so that's for this.

    @Rune while not putting those on immediate 'to watch' list, those also seem interesting. Well, after all, I may not watch The Conjuring - I am not a big fan of horrors.

    @Kiboune yes, watched that one. One of the few movies where I liked DiCaprio. And it's a very good example of the things I enjoy - weird or incredible events that are in fact quite real.

    Btw, really damn nice to see all the recommendations. I wasn't expecting to see much of them.

  8. #996062016-02-24 07:56:33Kirn said:

    So, this is a good thing I made this thread, because if now - I would have had to make it again. Because holy fuck, recently I feel like I watched entirely too many movies inspired by true events. And here some of them are.

    Bridge of Spies

    Story about a lawyer that negotiated exchange of spies between USSR and US back during good-old Cold War times. This was very interesting for me, as I personally like Tom Hanks, and it's a well-made movie, but I always have to look more closely at "US vs USSR" themes for obvious reasons. Well, how much of that movie is true? Good place to start would be this link, and I pretty much often use this site to check on story basics.
    Controversy here is the fact that is mentioned right at the end of the text from the link. Gary Powers was criticized, and under suspicion, for a long time. Basically, he did a crappy job as a "spy", and was suspected in telling too much or even turning to the other side. Which makes me feel like the movie works to gloss over that aftermath, concentrating more on other things.
    Gotta say, as I enjoyed Tom Hanks on that movie, I also was impressed with how they shown the Russian spy Abel. Soviets get their share of being evil system in that film, but the person shown makes watcher impressed.

    The 33

    A group of 33 Chilean miners gets trapped in the mine after it totally fucking collapses, while people above ground try to organize a rescue. This is your general disaster/rescue drama, and the value it has is the fact that it actually happened, and recently, too.
    Obviously, this was over dramatized for movie purposes, because Hollywood, and here you can read up on things gotten wrong, out of which I guess the story of Canadian drill looks like the biggest mistake.

  9. #996422016-02-25 11:29:52Kirn said:

    Let's continue!

    Black Mass

    Oh yeah, Depp movie! And a story about a gangster, that got protected by FBI, which made him do pretty much whatever the fuck he wanted for a long time. Guy was on 10 most wanted list for 12 years, after it was finally time to get him, and that came like 20 years later than it should have been. Nice, right? Well, how much of it is true?
    Quite a lot, apparently. Even up to mention of MK-ULTRA program, and damn, that was surprise for me. Plus, main facts of the story seem to be true - real people names and such, and their roles in all of this. Of course, this is Hollywood, so there's is artistic over-dramatization and such... But yeah, seems like that's pretty much similar to how it was. Which adds some real value.


    Holy fuck, Bryan Cranston! Seriously, after that guy got the BB spotlight... He's damn powerful actor. So, this movie is about Hollywood screenwriter, who was jailed for, pretty much, being a Communist, and blacklisted, among many others. And how he organized a black market of scripts under pseudonyms, anonymously got 2 oscars and finally broke the blacklist with his writing of the movie...... Spartacus. Yep, that's the guy who wrote that epic. So, how true?
    Well, you can pretty much read this article. Most facts about his case are well recorded in court videos and interviews, and facts about his writing are not public knowledge. And they say that his own daughters - who saw that period of time - helped to make the movie.
    However, I also can present you the other side. Which I was actually surprised a bit about - seems like there are still hardcore anti-communists out there. That one is longer, and I will be honest, I haven't red most of it.
    Movie itself is damn good. And I wonder, all those actors probably had a very interesting time portraying actual legends of Hollywood - John Wayne, Kirk Douglas, Trumbo, Hedda Hopper, even King brothers. I am sure it was really cool for them. Also, while this movie isn't nominated for best picture, it is nominated for best male actor for Bryan Cranston, and I do hope he wins.

  10. #998412016-03-01 20:42:34 *Kirn said:

    And this one I saw just a week before it got Oscar. Best picture. And I agree with that.


    Story about Boston Globe investigative reporting team Spotlight uncovering the whole fuckton of priests who fucked kids. I am sure you all are more or less familiar with that story, even if you don't know its origins. This is a very damn powerful movie, and there is... not even any action there. People do goddamn investigative journalism. That's it. It is a damn good movie. And, as always... here's the link that tells how true it is.
    Most of all I like this:

    Were the reporters really not very religious?

    Yes. The screenwriters realized that having at least one of the reporters be more in touch with his or her faith could enhance the drama, but the reality was that none of them were in touch with their faith.

    I mean, holy fuck, Hollywood NOT upping the drama? This is worth something. Plus, as the story is relatively new... they pretty much were consulting the very people who were the people in the story. Advantage of making a film about something that happened recently enough - you can get people who lived that story as consultants.

  11. #1000302016-03-06 17:50:27Kirn said:

    Those movies just won't stop!


    Tom Hardy plays 2 main heroes of the story - brothers, gangsters, London mobsters. Eventually - both arrested, but not before they did some pretty grim things. However, this movie is not exactly a gangster movie, as you may think from the trailer. It's more of a drama, dealing with mental illness, suicide, abuse and stuff like that.
    Here's the article on how true this is. And it seems like a lot was made for the Hollywood effect. Like Ron speaking openly about his homosexuality, or about Violet being mean to Frances... This movie just ups the drama when it needs to. Also, some facts about murders are still unclear, it seems, so movie offers their own justification which may or may not be true. So, while the general idea and final result may be true, the inner story should be taken with a grain of salt, I guess.

  12. #1003322016-03-12 15:14:32 *Kirn said:

    Story from older times this time...

    In the Heart of the Sea

    So, this movie is based on the book by the same name. And it tells the story of the whaling ship, that was, apparently, the inspiration for the famous Moby-Dick book. The ship was pretty much sunk by a fucking whale. And here is the interesting thing - story of Moby-Dick pretty much ends with the end of the ship. But this story is different - here the main part is what happens after...

    So, how true? It all happened long time ago, everyone who was there, or who even knew those people - they are long dead. However, there are accounts and testimonies, and I guess that's what the book was based on. Here are few articles. First one is smaller article, and it deals with the main part of the story, is it's true or not. And seems like it is. The second article is by author of the book himself, and it describes the whaling community... it's long, but it's some awesome background.

    Honestly, noone can say how true it is. Key parts - yes. But we must obviously assume that things were dramatized a lot by Hollywood. For example, talk of Herman Melville and old Tom Nickerson is obviously dramatization. However, book itself is based on written story by Nickerson and on account of Owen Chase. So... I would take it as a dramatization, obviously, but it tells a story about something that actually happened, and that was a pretty gruesome event.

  13. #1004662016-03-15 13:10:48Kirn said:

    And this one is a very recent kick in the nuts.

    The Big Short

    Remember the financial crisis of 2007-2008? I do. My country currency lost half its value during those years, so even though I never really understood what the fuck happened, I sure took notice. Well, this movie is a story about people who actually saw this coming and - this is important part - made a fuckton of money on it.
    Right away here's the link to the usual site about how true it is. Pretty much, this happened pretty recently. So a lot of events you can just get records of, and the article states that characters are believable and some actors were it touch with the real people they were playing. Though, notice that only one character is pictured in the movie under his real name.
    However, this is not a movie about crisis. No, it is, very specifically, a movie about those people. It offers very narrow view to the events, even though it does a very good job of being entertaining.

  14. #1006182016-03-20 14:46:38 *Rinneko said:

    The Imitation Game (2014)


    This American historical drama thriller was loosely based on Alan Turing's life. Turing was a British cryptanalyst during World War II. He worked for the Government Code & Cypher School, Britain's codebreaking centre. He led Hut 8, the section responsible for German naval cryptanalysis for a while. He devised many techniques for breaking German ciphers, which cracked intercepted coded transmission messages that helped the Allies defeat the Nazis in key events. Turing found the settings for the famed German Enigma machine. He also created (duh) the Turing machine. He was later prosecuted for homosexual acts, and said to have died by suicide.

    As can be expected, The Imitation Game is not exactly an accurate portrayal of history. Instead, it plays a lot on emotions. It made it very easy to sympathise with Turing. Rather than simply feeling pity or awe for him, I could put myself into his shoes without trying.

    The pace of the film was very consistent. One might argue too consistent. There wasn't much variation between life-changing events and day-to-day activities. This took a bit away from the meaning of such scenes.

    Additionally, as with quite a number of characters portrayed by Benedict Cumberbatch, Turing was socially awkward and emotionally detached. I understand that it's part of Turing's personality but it made important revelations, such as his sexuality, too abrupt. It raised questions, albeit ones that could be rationalised away.

    However, an element that pleasantly surprised me was definitely the interactions between Turing and his sole female assistant, Joan Clarke. They complemented each other very nicely, and the humour that arose lightened the film. In general, Clarke seemed to symbolise positivity.

  15. #1009222016-03-31 05:51:13Kirn said:


    Story of a Nigeria-born doctor who came to US and discovered that football you have there leads to brain disease called CTE, which you can only prove after you are dead, and about how NFL tried to shut him up. Which, to tell the truth, sounds like a really funny preposition to me, because it's kinda obvious that if you are hitting your head against other people for a living - even if you got the best helmet, you will get fucked up eventually...
    Well, no matter. Movie is very dramatic, and stuff, and it follows recent events and discoveries... which are apparently still being argued about. Here, check this article (it has a lot of links in it, too), and then this article, and then this article about real doctors portrayed in movie and this real story summary.
    Can you see it? I haven't found any proper mentions about how well Will Smith played the part of that Omalu guy. But in any article you will either see argument about the disease or some sort of opinion about movie and NFL relationship. Quite honestly, I feel like the fight shown in movie is still going, and movie is being not just representation of a story, but additional weapon in the argument.
    Well, it does its work well. Will Smith is a very famous actor, and even the idiots will know about it now, cause it's now in the movie. But for determining how true it all is in major events and in details - I guess everyone will have to do their own research.

  16. #1016672016-04-25 14:52:11 *Kirn said:


    This one was the last of the Oscar nominated movies this year I wanted to see. It didn't disappoint... I do think that bear should have gotten the Oscar, though, yes. And, what do you know - this fucking thing is based on a true story! Well, fuck, let's take a look at that.
    Now, first thing we have to really understand here. This is a tale from 1823. Obviously, the guy himself - Hugh Glass - is long dead. Everyone who knew him is long dead. And this story comes from a time of big tales and exaggerated fables. Pioneers had a fuckton of folk heroes, and it just might be, that this story is just that, and nothing more.
    So, I present to you two sources of information. One is a good-old trusty Wikipedia. And from this one you can see some interesting stuff already. Apparently, Glass was a pirate at some point, and there was never an issue about his son dying, and in the end, he killed noone - found two guys who left him for dead, forgave one, took back his rifle from another. And it was an epic fucking rifle. This article tells the story in much more detail, and again, even the article itself says that this tale goes mostly from what Glass himself told to other drunk people who later told it to reporters... but I like how it's written, and it tells a good story without overdramatizing stuff. So I will decide to mostly believe that one.
    So, in the end, what do we get? All that stuff about dead son, and revenge and other guy trying to choke him.... hollywood dramatization. Stuff about crawling around? Yeah, mostly true. Bear mauled the guy for approaching her 2 cubs? Yep, total truth, give the bear an Oscar already.

  17. #1029762016-05-26 03:23:22Kirn said:

    The Finest Hours (2016)

    Disney movie about what is called one of the greatest rescues in the history of the coast guard. In 1952, during a storm weather, two WW2 era tankers just broke in two. One managed to send a distress signal out, but not the other, so while one got a lot of attention, all the second one got is one boat with 4 people going out to save them.
    This is pretty much a very standard rescue drama. We have a main hero - awkward but likeable, his girlfriend - a strong female character in 1950-ies, they even got a sort of an antagonist of the movie - main hero's boss. Story is pretty simple, but visuals are quite amazing, so, if you like that sort of thing - you will like this, but you really won't find anything new in this film.
    So, how true is it? My usual website gives a pretty extensive breakdown of facts. I think, some of those are taken from witness accounts, some from the books about that whole story. The whole movie is based on the book of the same name.
    It seems that a lot of this is actually true to the real story. Just 4 people on a small boat went out and saved 32 people from the tanker that just snapped in two. They lost compass along the way, but managed to return safely. Still, some things are obviously not true. For example, while a lot about how Bernie and Miriam met is true, she didn't go to the coast guards station to plead for him. That arc is pure hollywood drama. Additionally, the tanker wasn't set aground, the crew actually steered it away from ground, so it wouldn't break up completely. Plus, it seems, the episode with life-boats os overdramatized. Still, key facts seem to be there, and that rescue really was just as daring and improbable as it was shown in the film.

  18. #1031622016-06-01 03:34:05Kirn said:

    Race (2016)

    This one is about famous black athlete Jesse Owens, who went to 1936 Summer Olympics in Nazi Germany and won 4 gold medals. And there you go, I just spoiled a whole movie for you. But you know, one can't help it when you are shown movie based on pretty well-known stuff.
    So, on one hand, this is a sports movie, on the other hand it got its share of drama about race, politics and all sorts of related stuffs. I can say, it's a decent representation. And you know, it was very possible for this movie to become just another film showing how unfairly blacks were treated back than... and there's enough of that, sure, but that doesn't feel like the main focus of it.
    So anyways, how true? Again, on my usual site there's a list of facts with sources. And it seems like, quite a lot is how it was. Yeah, Jesse had affair, yes, he was asked to not go to the games, yes, he became friends with Luz Long. There are smaller inconsistencies, like the building project deal for Nazi embassy coming through only after the games, not before, and like how Jesse was never actually called to meet Hitler. Plus there's a whole unknown area about why 2 Jewish runners were told to sit that race out. Movie puts its own spin on it, but noone knows for sure. In any case, seems like quite a lot is true here, and Owens' family was involved in the production of the movie. So, all in all, I would say the movie is much more true than not.

  19. #1033902016-06-09 16:25:49Kirn said:

    13 Hours: The Secret Soldiers of Benghazi

    You can immediately read about it here on Wikipedia. US diplomatic representative and CIA compound got hit by Libyan militants, which ended in some deaths.
    Now, you know, I dislike US and their foreign policy. I mean, if you don't want to get shot - stop trying to fuck over other countries. And events of the movie are kinda tied into that... However, there are a few things going for this picture. First of all, the events here are very narrow. We aren't really given much patriotic crap before we go to the main even which is just one long night full of gunfire and murder. Second of all, this is Michael Bay movie. You know you have to watch it just for action. And lastly - action is really good. I mean, people getting literally mown down by the machineguns... Good stuff.
    So, how true? Yeah, let's look at the usual site. So, there it says that quite a lot of details about the assault were true. Also it says about some controversy about ambassador's death, and also about names of some people not getting revealed for reasons of safety. Also, I actually enjoyed the general feel of the city they had there - with people calmly watching football on TV while there's assault going on few blocks away. It really gets that fucked up in some of the war-torn countries, and it adds weird realism to the movie, too.

  20. #1036082016-06-16 16:58:01Kirn said:

    Eddie the Eagle (2016)

    So, there's another sports movie. Also, here's a fun fact. Remember the movie about Jamaican bob-sledge team? There was a movie about them, "Cool Runnings". Well, at Winter Olympics of 1988 there was another weirdo who came in last, but was a big success in his own way. And that movie is about that guy.
    You know what, I will go right to the usual place. And from there we see that, right a way, there was a lot of made up stuff in this film. First of all, Hugh Jackman character is very much made up, and that kills pretty much half of the movie story already. Plus, Eddie was more of a sportsman, than he is shown, though he probably really was the most amateurish guy there. A lot of things was fictionalized for the movie, and pretty much just 3rd part is somewhat true in how the guy suddenly became popular with the crowd.
    It's alright movie if you want something light-hearted, and I have to admin, Hugh Jackman character got a fucking awesome moment there, but... most of it is not true to the facts. Real story is more straightforward and not too interested apart from the pure precedent of the fact, so they just had to add a lot of Hollywood scriptwriting to it.

  21. #1037782016-06-19 21:24:45Kirn said:

    Birkebeinerne (2016)

    This is a Norwegian historical drama about how church tried to kill a small child. Okay, now a bit more serious. In medieval times Norway had its own civil struggle, which eventually resulted into country being split into two major parties - Birkebeinar and Balger. Each party tried hard to legitimize their position by getting king's support. Thing is, kings were often changed - some were killed of, some died... and it was not an easy task to determine the next rightful ruled due to totally fucked up inheritance laws. One of the notable moments of that struggle was when an infant heir to the throne - Haakon Haakonsson - was saved from death by Balger hands thanks to two Birkebeinar who carried him away from danger on skis, through the harsh Norwegian blizzard. Here, just look at this epic 19th century picture, representing those events:


    Cool, right? Pretty much, vikings on skis. This event is actually so popular, that there are ski events named after it - like ski marathons, I think. And the movie is based on that trek. Obviously, since it all happened in winter of 1205/06, you can be sure that there's no way to tell how true any of it was. Then again, we can make some educated guessed. For example, movie uses quite a few historical names. Inge Bårdson, Inga of Varteig, Haakon Haakonsson himself... Hell, history knows the names of two guys who saved the future king - Torstein Skevla and Skjervald Skrukka, and those are the main heroes of the movie.
    Details of the movie are, however, very much a fiction. As I said, there's no way to know what happened in particular, so it's obvious, that the movie-makers had to just make things up. And they did. For example, I haven't found the name of the main villain Gisle anywhere, so I would assume he is made up to make it all more dramatic. Story with the king's poisoning is half true - he did get ill, and died, and it was suspected, that he was poisoned by Margareta. On the other side of it, we can be sure that the story of Skjervald in overly dramatized on the movie - he wasn't accused as traitor, and he and Torstein were pretty much chosen for the simple fact that they were the best skiers. Then again, any of those guys could have had their family killed by the other side, so, you know, there might have been some truth in that part... Or not. Also, it's uncertain, how much fighting they had during those events. Certainly, they were fleeing from the Balger territory, and they were chased.

    All in all, I liked the movie. It's a lose interpretation of historical events that were pretty important for Norway, and it's can be forgiven for not being too close to the truth for a simple reason of it all happening too long ago to have real truth known.

    Also, seriously, knights on skis. It's epic.