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Parent: Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei [Anime Discussion]

  1. #746212014-05-02 02:57:25mizlily said:

    @DarkChaplain That last part of the episode seemed really propaganda-y, people who openly disagree with the magic-only system are "terrorist" being controlled by some higher power to do evil...

  2. #746502014-05-02 08:49:19DarkChaplain said:

    @mizlily
    In this world, that IS the case. And in case you haven't noticed, these "higher powers" exist on BOTH sides. And they weren't just called "terrorists" for the heck of it, they have a history of actions that'd earn them that label, I am sure.
    This world is far from an utopia, magic or not.

    Also, if I were to judge an author's "political agenda" based on the fiction he/she writes...

  3. #746682014-05-02 16:16:22 *mizlily said:

    It could be just me. When I saw the episode, those were my first thoughts. Some say the story touches on meritocracy, I don't know about that because I don't know much about meritocracy. The story is fiction and can be written in anyway, I thought it was framed in a way that unusually consequential.

    Thank you for explaining that @Taro_Tanako. I was close to using my back as a foot rest

  4. #746702014-05-02 17:46:03 *Taro_Tanako said:

    I agree with @mizlily. There was something kinda off about the terrorist talk, regardless of the tiny glimpse into the dystopian setting. It was almost reminiscent of a Randian rant about how those with natural ability are superior and the ordinary people should just suck it up and be second-class citizens (literally in this anime!).

    I'm not aware of the political opinions of the writers but it is entirely reasonable for people to be challenging about a system that rewards you by virtue of your birth (magical ability) when clearly those with lesser magical ability have a great deal to offer society. I found it somewhat analogous to hereditary wealth or nobility. Of course, this is just my middle-class western white male view, but it did prompt me to sit up and think "WTF?? Did he just call a group of people looking for some form of equality a bunch of terrorist in the making?!"

  5. #746712014-05-02 18:26:31DarkChaplain said:

    @Taro_Tanako
    Problem is, it was HEAVILY implied that their fight for "equality" is based on dishonesty. The puppeteers are making propaganda to topple a system, even though they appear to be fully aware that their claims are bullshit.
    It was also said that they "exist to abolish magic" - they don't work towards equality, they want to remove the natural advantage the other side has over them, while still enjoying the same advantages themselves.

    They aren't shown as a "social justice" formation. They are presented as calculating, "never speaking of anything that would put them at a disadvantage", employing subterfuge even within their own ranks.

    There's a lot more to this than "they only want equality". There's also the Ten Masters, who are pulling a lot of strings in society. It seems likely that there's an internal conflict the elite has going on, and that Blanche is a simple tool in the hands of one of them.

    The episode didn't condemn the concept of equality, it condemned the dishonest formation whose goals are not about creating equality at all, yet still pretend that it is the case, all for their own gain.