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  1. The English Thread


    #834142014-10-09 09:47:08 *Lieutenant said:

    According to English language Wikipedia:

    "English is a West Germanic language that was first spoken in early medieval England and is now a global lingua franca. It is spoken as a first language by the majority populations of several sovereign states, including the United Kingdom, the United States, Canada, Australia, Ireland, New Zealand and a number of Caribbean nations; and it is an official language of almost 60 sovereign states. It is the third-most-common native language in the world, after Mandarin Chinese and Spanish. It is widely learned as a second language and is an official language of the European Union, many Commonwealth countries and the United Nations, as well as in many world organisations."

    I am pretty sure the majority of you people use English language in your daily lives, to those who live in the sovereign states and also to the people who often logged on TheColorless, so I need not say this because obviously we use English.

    So here is the thread about our main language used, ENGLISH. Here you may post:

    • information.
    • (fun) facts and trivia.
    • English joke(s) and pun(s).
    • how a certain word is pronounced.
    • the meaning of it.
    • words which bring an entire different meaning to some cultures or country.
    • the correct spelling of it.
    • possibly even a short-form of certain sentences (since we live in an era where people shorten words and sentences a lot) whether it's a question or an answer, or just plain simple info.
    • Also other possible things that fit in this thread as long as it's relevant to the topic.

    Call it an appreciation thread, or a dictionary thread, or even a fun thread which is exclusive to English language.

  2. #834162014-10-09 12:06:33Farris said:

    "Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo" is a grammatically correct sentence in American English.

  3. #834202014-10-09 14:22:02Kuro-tan said:

    This thing has rhymes everywhere so it's telling French citizens who are trying to pronounce English to not only rhyme all the time (probably not the intention...)

    but at the very end, it says

    My advice is to give up!!!

    No...just no...

    What kind of advice is that???

    Not only that, but the excerpt leads to a 404!!!

    Good Job Kirn, you heartless bastard!!! <3

  4. #834232014-10-09 15:52:47Slyter said:

    you will be speaking English better than 90% of the native English speakers in the world.

    Well damn, really? Really?

    Them standards.. That is a pretty nice poem though.

  5. #834192014-10-09 13:06:39 *Slyter said:

    English etymology is a fun thing to read into as it takes a buttload from other languages. Also the meanings and uses change over the times. There is this particular book I've read that delves into the old meanings of everyday words. Some have quite different meanings from what they have today and some aren't surprising such as 'Battery' being an energy cell and also an artillery(because they batter they targets geddit?)

    Here's an exerpt:

    Nice

    A word of warning. If you see or hear something too frequently, it begins to seem not familiar but alien, odd. So it will be the word noted in the heading above.

    Let's begin by looking at a few examples of using the flexible, complimentary, modern meaning of the word nice:

    She's nice. She makes cookies.

    That's a nice restaurant. Patrons must dress up to go there.

    Nice job! Adroitly accomplished, with panache.

    And you are nice. You put up with all these variations of the present use of the word nice.

    But let's revisit this word in the context of its origins and its changes in meaning over the years.

    You are nice. You're ignorant of the original meaning of nice. The source of English nice was an Old French word meaning "ignorant." Well, ignorance is too harsh a word. After all, the origin of nice is itself nice (as in, not obvious).

    Let's look at our other examples with similar historical synonymy:

    She's nice. She's screwing the neighbours. (Apparently luring them into her boudoir with those home-made cookies.) Nice in its earliest English meaning was "wanton."

    She's nice. She refuses to go to any restaurant except the finest ones. And she won't go unless she can dress nicely. She's being persnickety about her restaurant choice, and when she does go, she wants to dress a bit garishly.

    You're nice if you take her to that fine restaurant. She's going to order the most expensive dishes. Nice: stupid, foolish. And if she eats all she orders, she may not be nice anymore. Nice: "slender." But if you don't take her, she will be nice when considering your commitment to her. Nice: "doubtlful, critical."

    I know you want me to go on and on with such examples but I, too, am nice. Not nice: agreeable. but nice: unwilling.

    After all, as the saying doesn't go, "nice word, if you can get it."

    The book is "unfortunate english" by Bill Brohaugh and it's terrific (as in, remarkable not dreadful, terrifying).

  6. #834252014-10-09 18:31:45Kip said:

    this reminds me of a thing i saw explaining the differences between terms such as;"said", "was like", and "was all" :D

    http://i.imgur.com/4v5Twpm.png

    when did we replace the word “said” with “was like”

    i think it’s really interesting and cool actually that language has shifted so that ‘said’ implies that you’re quoting, while ‘was like’ means ‘i’m doing a general impression of this dude’. i mean you can’t really harsh on someone when ‘she was like aaah!’ means exactly that, doesn’t it? she was doing something very similar to the particular scream being made. so, ‘like’ indicates that you’re dealing with generalities and inexact terms, and want to convey the gist of things rather than focussing on exact phrasing and technical details—which is pretty great for young people, who are still developing cognitively and thus not always great at stringing a coherent sentence together.

    and then there’s “was all”, which tends to indicate a parody or exaggeration, or an even looser impression.

    she said: “I know I’ve filed these for you before, but it’s really not part of my job duties and I’m very busy today.”

    she was like: “done filing your paperwork, not my department, do it yourself.”

    she was all: “shyeah, no.”

    i am all in favor of flexibility in language and i think this is fantastic.

  7. #834262014-10-09 18:46:38 *Dark-B said:

    The sentence "I never said she stole my money" can mean 7 different things depending on where you put the emphasis.

    Such is a prime example for many other sentences.

  8. #834612014-10-10 09:14:18Dark-B said:

    Have you ever noticed that read rhymes with lead, and read rhymes with lead? Also read and lead don't rhyme. Neither do read and lead.

  9. #834842014-10-11 03:31:08Lieutenant said:
    • Mathematics uses "X" more than a daily English language.
    • In my country, "air" means water while "air" in English means gas.
  10. #835442014-10-13 21:19:18Ecstasy said:

    The word magazine means a shop in Russian.


    Hints on pronunciation for foreigners

    I take it you already know
    Of tough and bough and cough and dough?
    Others may stumble but not you
    Or hiccough, thorough laugh and through?
    Well done: And now you wish perhaps
    To learn of these familiar traps:
    Beware of heard a dreadful word
    That looks like beard and sounds like bird.
    And dead: It's said like bed, not bead,
    For goodness' sake, don't call it deed!
    Watch out for meat and great and threat,
    They rhyme with suite and straight and debt.
    A moth is not a moth in mother
    Nor both in bother, broth in brother.
    And here is not a match for there
    Nor dear and fear for bear and pear
    And then there's does and rose and lose,
    Just look them up; and goose and choose.
    And cork and work and hard and ward
    And font and front and word and sword.
    And do and go and thwart and part –
    Come, come, I've hardly made a start!
    A dreadful language?
    Man alive, I'd mastered it when I was five!
    (Anon)

  11. #835462014-10-13 22:00:16 *Taro_Tanako said:

    The poet Robert Browning caused considerable consternation by including the word twat in one of his poems, thinking it an innocent term. The work was Pippa Passes, written in 1841 and now remembered for the line "God's in His heaven, all's right with the world." But it also contains this disconcerting passage:

    Then owls and bats

    Cowls and twats

    Monks and nuns in a cloister's moods,

    Adjourn to the oak-stump pantry!

    Browning had apparently somewhere come across the word twat--which meant precisely the same then as it does now--but pronounced it with a flat a and somehow took it to mean a piece of headgear for nuns. The verse became a source of twittering amusement for generations of schoolboys and a perennial embarrassment to their elders, but the word was never altered and Browning was allowed to live out his life in wholesome ignorance because no one could think of a suitably delicate way of explaining his mistake to him.

    ― Bill Bryson, The Mother Tongue: English and How It Got That Way

  12. #835922014-10-15 14:47:32Rinneko said:
    • The word "alphabet" comes from the first two letters of the Greek alphabet: alpha, bēta.

    • The dot over the letter "i" and the letter "j" is called a "superscript dot".

    • The shortest complete sentence in English is the following. "I am."

    • The longest English word without a true vowel (a, e, i, o or u) is "rhythm".

  13. #836002014-10-15 15:35:54Kirn said:

    haven't found any articles on exactly that topic, except for a monologue made by George Carlin. But some of you you just cant help but notice.

    There are a lot of words in English with many meanings. And some of those double (or more) meanings words have some meanings that are perfectly fine, and some that are rude or dirty.

    Like the word 'ass'. It is a rude way to say 'butt', but it's also a perfectly fine word for donkey.
    Also, as an extremely easy example, 'pussy'. Which is a great word, because I like cats.

    However, the example I still laugh about is...

    https://fanart.tv/fanart/movies/107/movieposter/snatch-5215c14f11168.jpg

    As you know, 'snatch', when used as a verb, is a synonym to 'grab'. However, if used as a noun, it can be a slang name for a vagina.
    Now, if you saw the movie, you know that they swear like motherfuckers there, so one of translators translated the name of the movie in Russian in a quite vulgar way, to represent that very dirty meaning (and hey, we had just a word for that, lucky us!). So, since that time, when I see this word, first of all I think of the most vulgar way to think it, even if it's a verb...

    Funny thing is... I heard all those words and more in children cartoons - Disney, Pixar and others.

    Makes one wonder, did they just not think about double meanings, figuring that kids wouldn't know those anyways, or if they wanted to prepare children for the adult world, full of dirty language nuances.

  14. #838382014-10-23 01:28:42Sobby said:

    I thought this was a bit odd, but did you know that the word (Color) is spelled (Colour) in Canada, UK and most Commonwealth countries. From what i looked up, Colour is the proper way to spell the word, it comes up incorrect on my pc because i have American software, but I don't know about other people. I'm Canadian and have always spelled it (Color) but i think at the end of the day it doesn't really matter.

    http://i.imgur.com/pCXto5X.png

  15. #840802014-10-28 16:05:30Rinneko said:

    Yeah. Conventionally, 'colour' is British English while 'color' is American English. Likewise, while the British rules would dictate 'abnormalise', American spelling would write 'abnormalize'. I heard Canadian English is a mixture of British and American though, but I'm not sure.

    If you're interested, here are some vocabulary differences between British and American English.

  16. #844462014-11-09 16:56:52Lieutenant said:

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    YOLOTH

    Anyway, Check this out, it's an app to create your own stories in historical way, here are few examples my friends made.

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