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  1. CL Short Story Project 6: Discussion Thread


    #845542014-11-15 00:35:12DarkChaplain said:

    This thread is a follow up to:

    For the full project details, please refer to those threads.


    Alright, so I've got my PC problems under control, final stages should be happening this weekend, and while I still got some shit to take care of next week, I feel like having another one of these before the year's over.

    Since last time we had a close race between the topics Supernatural and Lies, I'd like this 6th project to pick up Lies, since plenty of people seemed interested in writing it.

    Alternatively, I guess Christmas might be a reasonably seasonal topic, but then, I'd want to shorten the deadline to mid December, so that I could hopefully finish editing it for release on the 24th. Not sure people would be up to it, and I'd definitely demand people to submit a short description of their stories, and expect a lot of creativity surrounding it.

    So... who'd be interested in participating? Anybody? No? That's also cool with me.

    Post feedback here!

  2. #845582014-11-15 04:00:11Lieutenant said:

    Even if the topic this time will be Lies, I think there'll be people who will or want to do it on Christmas season storyline. Since Lies itself gives a pretty much a general freedom to writers to write their story not really tied up too specifically, a lot of viewpoints can be displayed through this topic, either revolves around a season or not, at least the main topic should be present clear enough for readers to catch up with the story.

    Anyways, since a plenty of people showed interest in writing Lies as the main topic, I pretty much for once like to see how people will come up with their stories.

  3. #845592014-11-15 04:50:20Ucui said:

    I'd be interested in participating, but I'm not sure if my personal time management will allow. As of right now, I have a lot of essays and exams to study for.

    As for the topic, I'm open to anything. I'm not sure how I'd go about Lies so I'll suggest Exploration. Whether it be discovering cities lost in the the stream of time, dead bodies in a ditch, or feelings you really wish didn't exist, exploration is a broad theme to work around and enjoyably flexible.

  4. #845772014-11-15 13:40:01Rinneko said:

    I'd say, it'll probably be pretty sad to think about Lies during Christmas. However, I'm still personally interested in writing with the topic Lies! I'm not sure if I'll be free to participate, though, so no promises here.

  5. #845992014-11-15 22:25:32Taro_Tanako said:

    Personally, I think Lies as a subject is a little odd and weak. Christmas theme is nice though but gives us all short notice. I guess we could do this though. I will try and write for the next story project, whatever it turns out to be.

  6. #846032014-11-15 23:27:07hellstorm901 said:

    The lie in my story will be the story is a lie.

    No but seriously. What on Earth constitutes a "Lie" Genre story as I'm kinda at a loss here.

  7. #846052014-11-16 00:03:25DarkChaplain said:

    @hellstorm901
    Are you having amnesia or sth? You even posted after I proposed the topic and elaborated on it on the last discussion thread. And nobody but you brought "genre" into this. The OP talks about topics, not genres

    To reiterate:

    Lies can be spun in an infinite amount of creative ways. One could look at the liar, the ones being lied to, the effects, the struggle to maintain a lie. Of course, this stretches from simple "I'm lying to my friends" to big con artistry, cheating in casionos to big government coverups. Lies exist in all walks of life, small and big ones, good and bad. They exist in every genre, and could thus, as a theme, give the writers a massive amount of freedom.

    And

    What I AM enthusiastic about is the idea of Lies. Why? Because you can write lies into everything. We lie on a regular basis in real life, and fantasy heroes, as well as superheroes, lie about their identities or deeds all the time. Bruce Wayne is hiding his role as the Dark Knight from the world and won't hesitate lying about it, or setting up situations that'd disprove suspicions of others that it might be him.

    The Government lies about its "war on terror", or about how they aren't getting basically blackmailed by the industry titans. The media makes a whole business out of lying, as do actors who assume roles for an audience. People lie to save others, people lie to get an out-of-jail card in the future, people lie to get what they want, people lie to steal others blind. They can also lie to avoid hurting somebody, which can also backfire.

    Lies have a LOT of room for interpretation, moral ambiguity, interesting settings and characters. A story could be about an unrepentent arsehole lying to further his own greed, or it could be about a joking trickster who deceives his audience for whichever reasons. It could be about a guy or girl lying to their family or lover about something, or an employee lying about his work. It could be about a scientist lying about his research, for good or ill. It could be about a priest deceiving himself in his beliefs, or a parent telling his daughter that Santa is real.

    There's a shitload of room for interesting stories, both very human ones close to the heart to spectacular games and complex drama. The funny thing with lies is that they can be both a means to an end or a catalyst setting a whole line of events into motion. They can solve problems and create new ones.

    That's good stuff for written stories, especially since those allow for closer examination of the involved characters' motivations and thought processes. Something that movies really suck at.

  8. #846362014-11-17 03:46:12 *--Jack-- said:

    Since the topic of Lies has been brought up, and then repeated, and then repeated again, I'll throw in a different topic:

    Dystopia

    (perhaps as a setting or plot element)

    Yes I'm a sucker for dystopian things as some of you may know, but this is a topic we haven't directly chosen. Some of us have used it a little in our submissions, but it's not been a key aspect of past projects. Dystopia can span most types of story settings, whether its an overpopulated future with technology or a medieval time period with merciless kings, etc. It could be a post-apocalypse world of scavengers, or a war-torn world. From oppressive Governments to lawless wastelands, there are plenty of options that fit this.

    Often times stories like this have a silver lining or moral reference. A world that's dark but has some glimmer of hope or small speck of kindness and warmth that can touch a reader deeply.

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  9. #846922014-11-21 07:59:17Rinneko said:

    As previously mentioned, I do personally like the idea of dystopia! :) I'm also still interested in Lies, though, and I think that these two topics actually meld well together.

  10. #846932014-11-21 08:01:27 *Lieutenant said:

    I think putting in the element of Dystopia in the subject of Lies could work. (just like how Rinn mentioned how these two topics actually meld well together.)

  11. #846892014-11-21 06:19:11Kip said:

    i think the theme of Lies is a good choice. i'm not sure if we're looking to narrow down the amount of genre or encouraging it though? are we gonna go nuts with the setting and stuff for this, like each individual choosing their own genre, or is it gonna be narrowed down to one specific genre with a Lies theme?

    if it's Lies i'd write for a basic "slice of life" story i think, or maybe something Sci-Fi or Fantasy. i think Lies offers infinitely more things to write about than a Christmas setting, i think a bunch of rushed Christmas stories would be kind of hard and also boring.

  12. #846902014-11-21 06:24:51DarkChaplain said:

    if it's Lies i'd write for a basic "slice of life" story i think, or maybe something Sci-Fi or Fantasy. i think Lies offers infinitely more things to write about than a Christmas setting, i think a bunch of rushed Christmas stories would be kind of hard and also boring.

    That's the point, yes. As long as it is a story revolving around Lies in one way or another, it doesn't matter if its a horror story, a fantasy, a comedy slice of life setting or whatever else. As long as there's some fundamental lie, some sort of deception going on, it is a go. If the theme of lies takes a prominent, or elemental role, that's good.

  13. #846912014-11-21 06:41:30Kip said:

    As long as it is a story revolving around Lies in one way or another, it doesn't matter if its a horror story, a fantasy, a comedy slice of life setting or whatever else.

    i think that sounds like a fun idea, and it also might get people more interested/motivated to write something for the theme because the individual would be able to write in the genre they're most comfortable with! also it would be very interesting to read so many different genres this time, all based around the same general theme. i like that kind of stuff.

  14. #846962014-11-21 15:17:41 *Cenica said:

    Yeah personally more interested in lies than I am in the idea of dystopia. I think lies requires more cleverness on the writer's part to come up with something both interesting and at the same time making logical sense. I think I'd get bored with dystopia. I mean usually my imagination would be firing off a ton of story ideas with about any topic but dystopia just doesn't really interest me that much.
    And dystopia is:

    an imagined place or state in which everything is unpleasant or bad, typically a totalitarian or environmentally degraded one.

    Just to clarify. It literally translates into "not-good place" and is just an opposite of eutopia.
    I think there's just not enough to it to make me feel like I need to be creative with the idea of dystopia.

  15. #847062014-11-22 01:58:26DarkChaplain said:

    To help me gauge interest in this project, please leave a message below this post if you are interested in participating.

    Please also leave a post to tell me why you aren't interested/still hesitant.
    I'd like to know how to maximize the amount of participants. Besides, I won't be holding this project for an odd 3 or 4 people.

  16. #847072014-11-22 02:02:47Ucui said:

    I'm currently hesitant to join this particular project due to school. There are currently about 4 weeks that are filled with testing and essays remaining. I'd like to focus on that before anything else. If I do find myself with time to participate in this anthology, please do expect something from me, but as of right now I am still undecided.

  17. #847102014-11-22 02:48:04--Jack-- said:

    I'm interested. Also free time may be an issue as per usual, but I've yet to miss out on a big writing project unlike some.

  18. #847172014-11-22 05:17:34Lieutenant said:

    A little hesitant because never participated in such project, but hey there's always a first time in everything. I'm interested in joining anyways.

  19. #848842014-11-28 20:58:59 *Cenica said:

    @hellstorm901 We haven't even started the voting yet so I think there's a high likelihood of that happening.
    You could try writing a story that covered both lies and dystopia and finishing/ turning it in early.

  20. #847092014-11-22 02:05:04DarkChaplain said:

    Let me point out that no timeframe has been chosen yet!

    There is no start date or deadline as of now. This probably won't start until early to mid December at this rate, though no promises on that either.

  21. #847122014-11-22 03:28:54Teil said:

    In all honesty I can say that using "lies" as a topic would be on the outskirts of my comfort zone. A story based around lies is something I really haven't explored before in any of my writings so I'm not entirely sure how I'd go about it. However, I'm always open to trying new writing techniques and if it comes down to it I'll probably give lies a shot just for the sheer fun of it.

    A Christmas story really doesn't appeal to me at all. I've already experienced too much of it in the media and other sources for it to really fascinate me. I know it's nearing the season and all but as DC mentioned...

    There is no start date or deadline as of now. This probably won't start until early to mid December at this rate, though no promises on that either.

    It's very unlikely we'd be able to produce this thing until after Christmas, or even the New-Years has ended. By that time, it's likely that the charm aspect of a Christmas topic will have diminished significantly.

    A Dystopia is definitely something I feel I could get into. I enjoy writing within dark or empty settings and if I try hard enough I might be able to put together a semi-decent story within such a topic.

    Regarding the idea of combining elements of Lies and Dystopia, I personally think it would be more of a hindrance to the writers. Using either topic by itself as the base of a story could yield some interesting results however, using two topics together could potentially restrict the reader from bringing out the full potential of their story as they'd have to maintain the rules set by both. It'd be easier to settle on one topic and add elements of the other as the writer sees fit.

    My participation in the anthology isn't guaranteed at the moment but we're slowly crawling out of the busy time-frame of the year. The longer this gets dragged on, the more likely I am to join in. Starting mid December and ending sometime in January would be golden for me. I'd be able to use the winter Vacation to my advantage.