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Parent: CL User Guide: Kirn

  1. #917922015-09-01 11:15:37Farris said:

    I am glad Kirn is back, I missed him, simply because I prefer cynical views when it comes to opinions.

    Personally I think this thread is nice for new people to read, just so they understand that they're not the only ones being "harassed" by him. Plenty of people who come here might take what he says a little bit too personal, and that might cause them to leave.

  2. #917952015-09-01 17:10:51Momimochi said:

    Why it's not new user friendly:

    1) Implies hierarchy- It's fine if the user themselves made the post because it can easily be taken as a e-peen egotistical joke but this was made by another user for a single specific user. There is only one of these threads. It's basically saying: Fuck all the other users, this is the only one who's worthy of respect. they're not I mean, coming from people who's been here for a while, yeah we get it's just normal CL attitude to pull shit like that but remember that new users probably don't have that mindset.

    2) It's not a warning- It's really not. It's basically telling you how you should act or else you deserve and should expect to be harassed. No. No one deserves or should expect to get harassed. I mean, yeah, you're on the interwebs and you should probably prepare yourself for it, but this is basically akin to saying slut-shaming women is fine. They deserve it because they dress a certain way that they feel comfortable in. It's pretty much like saying: well, yeah, you wouldn't have gotten raped if you didn't do X.
    It's the same shit.

    3) Respect to gain respect is not applied- Look at the thread. It's not saying that respect is reciprocal. It's basically saying only you should respect Kirn but he doesn't have to respect you for shit. Kinda ties in with hierarchy point.

    My point is, this thread basically brings misconceptions to new users and pretty much throws them on the bottom of the shitpile.
    They shouldn't be told to act a certain way just to cater to someone. No one should. And should someone be a dick to the person, they should feel the obligation to send in a complaint without having someone to say "well, a thread warned you not to act like that around X". That's fucked up and just gives a bad impression to the community in whole.

  3. #917962015-09-01 18:56:19 *Farris said:

    I can see what you're trying to say, and I do believe that all people here/anywhere deserve respect, not that it's easy when there's so many different personalities carrying their cultures here.
    Basically this entire guide can be compressed to a simple sentence, "Kirn often acts like a dick to most people, but he has contributed to making the site what it is today, don't take what he says to you personally".
    Seriously though, I can't see why you suddenly turn into this keyboard crusader when it comes to this thread, not that I mind, I like reading people's opinions.

    Also please refrain from using examples like this:
    It's pretty much like saying: well, yeah, you wouldn't have gotten raped if you didn't do X. It's the same shit

    It makes me want to vomit. It's not the fucking same shit in any way, I see what you're trying to point out though.
  4. #917982015-09-01 20:00:59 *Taro_Tanako said:

    I know I'm gonna regret wading in here but..

    @Farris Momi is categorically NOT calling this member a keyboard crusader, and he is most certainly not one even though he likes to think so. Her point, whilst taken to a less reasonable extreme in comparing to slut-shaming etc, has a kernel of importance to it.

    This is a shameless glorification post of a single member who has no respect for you or any other person on CL, as far as has been shown. It gives warning in a terrible complicit way about behaviour that is inexcusable, especially from a veteran of CL. It is not cool.

    But then, if people want to engage in some ridiculous ego bukkake with this guy then play on I guess. Hopefully we will all find out the reasoning behind his 5th permaban is intriguing..

    EDIT: I erroneously understood Farris to be calling Kirn a keyboard crusader when he was referring to Momi. However, comment still stands to some degree.