@Noodle Never had any. I'm healthwise. I'm a vegetarian.

Anyway, what you're talking about is a different kind of thing about Nature. Nature may refer to something about the environment or it can mean something natural

• Quote: "Nature didn't design many of the objects nor the habits you have/use in your everyday life, but that is not a problem to you, is it?"

Have you tried grabbing a girl from a sidewalk and had a sexual intercourse with her? Why don't people do that naturally? How about drinking, when you're thirsty and you come across a free water supply, would your conscience be in the same state as when you grabbed that girl from the sidewalk? Is drinking water normal? Is grabbing someone for sexual intercouse justifiable? Is it normal?

In the end, it's up for you guys to decide. This thread is about your personal opinions and mine. When I say I don't support it, I don't. I don't give a damn about others opinions (No. Not seriously, sometimes I do)

@gyl So... You are comparing raping people with being a homosexual?

Society have made it very clear what is right and wrong. If we we're raised by a society who taught us women do not have rights, I think people would see raping a woman the same as drinking when you're thirsty, yes. But you can't seriously compare these things. Homosexuality does not harm anyone and therefore it can't be compared with rape in any way.

@Noodle

No. I don't want compare anything that belongs in the same category.

In case you ask, I categorize these kind of things in a vague way. Good. or Bad.

Right now I don't really care about everybody's standpoint about this matter because I'm sleepy.....

@gyl I would mention priests and little boys at this point, but that's for another petty argument another day.

@gyl: What I'm trying to say is that your metaphor, figure of speech, example, blah blah, has no weight in this matter because you don't even know how the things you talk about work.

No, you can not see a proton under a microscope. The way we figured out protons exist is, we tried bombarding atoms with alpha particles and some of them got deflected. How do we know they got deflected? Nah, we didn't watch it all under a microscope. We saw flashes when they hit the zinc sulfide screen.

Antiprotons are not short-lived, they are in fact as stable as our normal protons, the only difference is, they love protons so much that it's hard to keep them from anihilating. You could say that they're cool, it's just that the environment hates them.

If proton and electron collided, they too wouldn't have a happy ending. In fact, they'd create a neutron and an anti neutrino, so you should be careful when you have heterosexual sex because you might get merged with your partner into an unrecognizable abomination with some leftovers on the side. Because that's how sex works, it's only natural that we compare it to subatomic particle collisions.

Humans are part of the universe. Everything they think of or create, is part of the universe. If the universe allows it to exist, it is natural.

Meanwhile, "normal" is defined by the society you are part of ("norms and values").

And there are no microscopes allowing you to see protons. Protons are damn small compared to the atoms they are the center of (between the outer "wall" of an atom and the kernel, there is huge empty space, sometimes with electrons orbiting the kernel). There are certainly ways to measure them, but not "see", not visually. You know why? Because light is reflected by atoms, not by subatomic particles (and the constellation and setup of the subatomic particles of an atom define the way the light is reflected).

@gyl @Noodle @TokoyamiSenshi

Edit: Opps, got ninja'd by Tokoyami. Welp

@Gargron That's my point. While homosexuality may not be normal, it sure as hell is natural.

@gyl oh, really now

It's really weird how people try to escape the reality of who they are.

I'm a vegetarian.

Using your logic, men are supposed to love women and women are supposed to love men by nature. Also humans, by their nature, are supposed to eat meat. It is all very good and fine, but you miss one important thing - we can't live only by instincts - and this is also the way nature designed us - human beings have mental needs and we have an ability to go against our nature (for example people do a lot of things having nothing in return - such as working hard for no money like @acostoss). This is what makes us humans after all.

The fact that you've never experienced feelings to the person of the opposite sex doesn't mean such feelings can't exist and people are just lying to themselves "escaping the reality". I never had a child and never experienced mother's love but somehow I believe my mother loves me (not in a perverted way, in case if anyone wants to troll this example).

You sound so contradictory that I don't even have to make any trivial statements such as "they had it all in ancient Greece" or "I had a girlfriend I intended to spent the rest of my life with".

I'm a vegetarian.

We're omnivores. Therefore, being a vegetarian goes against natural law.

STOP BREAKING ENTROPY, DAMMIT

I've had my meat eaten, if ya know what I mean.

[Insert Fakkin reference here]

I don't support homosexuality. My body isn't ready.

I was in a school play with a homosexual, have u ever been molested after reciting Shakespeare... (the play wasn't Shakespeare) Even though I was touched, he was still a good friend. I support homosexuality!

What do you mean by 'touched'?

@Ecstasy Actually no. Human are designed as herbivores. Don't ask me why. I'm too lazy and busy. read for yourself

I agree with you here. Not only by instincts but also conscience. If there's anything we can live by, there's a lot. So find it out by yourself. "We have the ability to go against our nature" That ability to contradict nature is natural, right? The ability is normal but the unnatural result is still unnatural.

About your girlfriend you want to spend your life with: That's not normal. I don't care. But that's what common sense tells me. I mean, if it's normal then why did this topic become a huge fuss anyway.

@TokoyamiSenshi. @Gargon.Fine. I really don't want posting too much here in the Colorless because I just want to stalk (again. Don't ask me why. I'm too lazy and busy to answer). If you don't want that metaphor then don't use it. Let's just say that man is kind of like a matter with an electric charge. (There, more simple) If there's anything that contradicts with that metaphor then tell me I'm wrong. But I won't answer until I feel like it (but I really dislike leaving some stuff unresolved).

Why am I always lazy? Well, I got some books to read, (musical) instruments to practice and games to play. (But I still like visiting Colorless)

Oh, about the universe thingy..... lol *So case closed and thread locked? Because everything is normal? Because nothing is abnormal/paranormal/extraordinary? (Huh, is there something like that? I'm pretty sure there is. I mean, are those words for?)

Note: No. Don't answer those questions

Anyway, I don't care if exert your own opinions about homo to me or anybody. I really don't care. I just don't support it. That's all

@gyl we're still technically omnivores, and it basically boils down to this.

@gyl A person like me? This is coming from someone who mistook Transexuals for Homosexuals? Yes, I'm sure I'm the one with below average comprehension skills.

You explicitly said I don't care about lesbians, which can imply they don't matter to you, or you're okay with them. You're comparing people to protons? Really? REALLY? You have no grasp of Metaphor, so don't try to use one. It comes off as you trying to sound smarter than you actually are.

Gyl, do you even know what the fuck you're talking about? Because it seems to me, you're just talking out of your ass in the hopes that someone will eat the garbage coming out of it, and accept it. But it's not acceptable. I'm all down with you not supporting homosexuality, but talking out of your ass and thinking that's A-OK is not acceptable.

And maybe you should do some research before talking about anything. Because lest we not forget, your first post in this thread was you talking about TRANSEXUALS AND TRANSGENDERS, when this is a thread about HOMOSEXUALS.

Before I forget... You shouldn't be a Vegetarian, REAL MEN EAT MEAT, just like how real men shouldn't be gay, because that's what it means to be a real man. To eat meat and fuck bitches and whores, as long as they're girls. Being a vegetarian goes against how nature designed us, we were meant to be Omnivores, stop fighting who you are, stop lying to yourself. It's just not natural.

do you even know what the fuck you're talking about? Because it seems to me, you're just talking out of your ass in the hopes that someone will eat the garbage coming out of it, and accept it.

I think we are dealing with Fox News here. Familiar patterns...

Oh shit! I think you might be on to something. Fox News is everywhere....

@Gargron

Stupid idea. I just said my own opinion. If you treat it as garbage, I don't really care

@SENsei If you don't give a damn. Then don't even post about it.

AMEN!

@gyl And I support you stating your own opinion, but I'm stating my opinion that your opinion is full of shit. And it would benefit you to try talking what you know, instead of talking out of your ass.

@Maudia okay. Now I don't also care about the your opinion about my opinion