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  1. KONY 2012.

    #163562012-03-06 23:28:33 *Kyuuun said:


    Stop checking your Facebook newsfeed that you’ve already checked two seconds ago. Stop updating your Twitter and seeing what your favorite celebrities are saying. Stop watching funny and nonsense videos on Youtube. Take time to educate yourself to MAKE A DIFFERENCE in this world. This is your chance! WATCH THIS VIDEO.

    Let’s make JOSEPH KONY Famous!!

    Who is JOSEPH KONY?

    He is THE WORST LIVING CRIMINAL. He abducts children and makes them use guns to kill their own parents. He takes girls and forces them to be sex slaves. He calls his abducted children the Lord’s Resistance Army, AKA the LRA. He has abducted over 30,000 children and forced them to be child soldiers in Central Africa. He remains at large because he is INVISIBLE to the world. FEW know his name, even FEWER know his crimes. WE ARE MAKING HIM FAMOUS! Because when he is, the world will unite against him and demand his arrest.

    We can help make a change. We can make a difference.

    I feel so inspired. I feel the need to help and make a difference. This has to happen in 2012. We can’t let him go around and keep doing this to children in Central Africa. Let’s make his name known so he can be stopped. HE CAN NO LONGER BE INVISIBLE!

    SHARE THIS TO EVERYONE! Be a part of something BIG and when they catch this man, you would be able to say.. “I HELPED.”

  2. #163822012-03-07 01:33:28eterno said:

    Mom: Get off the computer! Do something useful!

    Me when I was 14: Mom! I'm doing something useful!

    Mom: And how exactly are you doing that?

    And now I have the answer. It didn't take me the whole movie to start posting the movie everywhere.

    I guess this is less about Kony himself. But more about how we're going to change the World by bringing him down.

    In the future, the name 'Joseph Kony' shall be known in the history books as Man of the Year 2012.

  3. #164112012-03-07 06:02:42Deftones said:

    I can't watch the vid because I have no sound. But this seems silly, I don't think posting crap all over your city and making this guy "Famous" is going to do much. People will forget in a months time and move on with THEIR lives, it's just how it is.

  4. #164132012-03-07 06:21:21Lumiex said:

    @Deftones In a way I agree with you, this might just become a silly Facebook fad just as the "TOMS no shoes for a day" All they'll know is that Joseph Kony is a bad man. Just as much as the young boy does.

    This video seems to also only be in English, and apparently mostly an "American Concern". I can only see success in the project if spread to other Countries such as Russia, China, or Japan.

  5. #164152012-03-07 06:29:01 *Fieyr said:

    @Deftones - Regardless of how you think 'it is' I for one wouldn't be able to look at one of these children and tell them I DID NOTHING when I have all these tools at my disposal that I can use to possibly change their lives by ridding the world of this monster.

    I have a computer. I can share this on every social networking site with all my friends.

    I have a voice. I can tell everyone I know, and anyone else who is willing to listen, about this.

    I have 2 good legs. I can protest in the streets, and yes, even hang posters throughout my city.

    I can't in good conscious sit back and do nothing when, regardless of how 'it is', I may have the ability to stop even one child from being kidnapped and either forced to murder others or to be used as a sex slave.

    No thank you. I couldn't live with myself.

  6. #164382012-03-07 08:12:19Trzaska said:

    There's plenty of guys like this in Africa, and people with the power to actually do something about them aren't. Just seems everyone's a bit late to the party. I doubt anything will come of this, but if something does change, great.

  7. #164632012-03-07 12:22:59Nandaba said:

    Yeah, let's listen to the white guy on a video and his black friend with a sob story while hundreds of thousand of hipsters ignore every single other problem in the world by focusing on what they think is the only sociopolitical issue on Earth!

  8. #164682012-03-07 13:00:00eterno said:

    @Nandaba It's always been like that. Got a problem?

    What? You'd rather help the Uighur and Tibetans from Chinese oppression? HOW?

    At least this one has a clear solution.

  9. #164702012-03-07 13:13:54 *Nandaba said:

    @eterno You know what the problem is? The problem lies mainly in the people - mainly teenage hipsters - who literally and blindly believe not that they can do something (which, truthfully, they can), but honestly think that they can become some sort of unstoppable driving force to change the entire world or, even worse, jump thinking that Joseph Kony is the only evil in the world and inadvertently/consciously turning a blind eye to other atrocities or even supporting them. This can be seen anywhere, from LOL ANONIMOOSE IS LEGUN XD to going to Occupy Wall Street recording the protest with your iPad and hitting Starbucks with your hipster friends afterwards - and I still haven't said a thing about the fact that the LRA has stopped fucking with most of Africa for over four years now, the amount of abducted children went down way below the 5000s, and not to mention the fact that Kony is dying right now in the middle of the Congo!

    If you don't research your things well you will end up fucking the country even more. Southern Sudan turned to absolute shit for years because of foreign aid, they grew dependent on UN and NGO help and only very recently they could reactivate their economy. I'm not saying awareness is a bad idea, but sending your money and goods to something you only heard in a (sadly truthfully) pretty outdated video is a bad idea when Uganda and Africa is having their own set of completely different (or, at best, tangentially related) issues. Corruption and human rights violations were already present in the Ugandan government before and after Kony showed up; for fuck's sake, the current Ugandan government starved intentionally hundreds of thousands to death, depopulated the northern area to seize control of oil and resources and directly sponsored warlords! Do we get a documentary about that? Of course not! We get an MTV-style video which is nothing but a 20 minute circlejerk with fancy editing that teaches you how YOU CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE WITHOUT HAVING TO KNOW SHIT ABOUT THE ISSUE! ECKS FUCKING DEE!

    Then there's also the entire issue of the video promoting colonialism and direct intervention (from, gasp! White people!) as the only viable solution, but considering this is a pretty American reasoning I'll refrain from saying anything.

  10. #165082012-03-07 17:04:07 *Fieyr said:

    @Nandaba You talk as if the only audience being made aware of this situation is your 'teenage hipsters'. I'll agree with you that the adoption of causes like this by the 'teenage hipster' group may not do much to add to the authenticity or urgency of the cause. However, that doesn't change the fact that they are humans working to spread the message, which you yourself said awareness in and of itself is a good thing. It then becomes somewhat irrelevant whether they are truthfully trying to change things for the better, or whether they are simply looking for 'the next thing' to boost their hipster status.

    Because the message itself is being spread, that means that people who actually WILL work to make a difference will be made aware of the problem. And if we're lucky, we might even have a few hipsters convert into true agents of change.

    Secondly, I'll take a hipster who is aware of even one single issue that plagues humanity, over one who is completely oblivious to the numerous atrocities in this world... any day of the week. I'm tired of the argument that, because there is more than one thing wrong with this world we live in, that we should somehow feel ashamed that we are neglecting other issues. It's almost sounds like you're trying to justify doing nothing at all because of the fact that we're each incapable of tackling all the issues at once (ie: Kony, Ugandan government, sponsoring of war lords, etc). I think that's ridiculous.

    Us humans have one thing going for us...there's a lot of humans. Billions of humans in fact!

    Why don't we, I dunno, split things up? Divide and conquer?

    Regarding screwing countries up. I completely agree with you. Your approach must be catered to the situation. That said, I have to imagine that they've put at least A LITTLE thought into the approach. Maybe that's a dangerous assumption on my part. However, the rest of us do not have the time to fully dedicate our lives to this cause or investigate the best approach. Therefore, in order for the common man/woman to contribute in some way, there has to be some sort of compression of these issues into easily digestible 30 min nuggets. The alternative being a state of complete obliviousness amongst the general public.

    Yes, maybe this isn't the perfect approach. And maybe we can refine the process to become more effective as we learn from our mistakes going forward.

    However, the alternative of doing nothing at all is tantamount to placing your seal of approval on the actions of a man responsible for the enslavement of thousands of children.

    It's obvious you're very smart. You obviously have a grasp of the situation far better than the average person.

    Why don't you use that big ol' sexy brain of yours to work on coming up with a solution instead of only hating on other attempts to solve these complex problems?

    Only being critical without offering a more palatable alternative only serves to discourage changing the status quo.

  11. #165102012-03-07 17:26:00Zechs said:

    Kony 2012 is BULLSHIT and will accomplish nothing but boost that douche's ego.

    Don't waste your time and money. The Ugandan military and government is thoroughly corrupt and use operations to take Kony out only to profit themselves. They have no interest in disabling Kony, because the officers and commanders in the military (of both Uganda and DR Congo) use the "rebels" to smuggle goods across borders for the civilian businesses they own. The Department of State knew about this in '98, that's why they refused. Obama obviously sent officers over to "train" as a political stunt. The US military, fed up with having their time wasted, want to bring the officers home. Fuck this whole Kony 2012 shit, it'll only keep those officers there longer. It's hopeless, and the US will NOT send armed intervention there because that whole area is an anti-American tinderbox ready to ignite/explode, destabilizing humanity even further. Anyone who has done any research at all into this issue should know this, and judging by the general douchiness this guy gives off, he's probably 'fundraising' for the mulah/publicity/ego boost. It's depressing. Nothing can be done. The only hope is that a strong reform movement cleanses both Uganda and the DCR (other countries in the area too) in an Arab spring type revolution to hopefully cleanse the local governments, who will in turn cleanse the military, who will in turn cleanse creeps like Kony. That's all occurring in a big hot kerosene soaked tinderbox that is Africa. Oh, and don't get me started on Sudan, North Sudan and South Sudan (yeah, that's new) are still battling over oil refineries on their fancy new border.

    Here's a journal from JSTOR about the corruption:

  12. #165362012-03-07 19:12:12Zechs said:


    Uhh, both World Wars, especially WW2, Korea, Iraq, Afghanistan, Haiti, Japan, Somalian coast, Germany, Eastern Europe, I could go on and on... Yeah, some bad things come out of each conflict, but the end result is usually way way better than it would be had America done nothing. Read some journals about some conflicts and US intervention and compare it to UN intervention. US kicks UN's ass every fucking time in success rates.

    As far as intervening in Sub-Saharan Africa, it's a kersene soaked pyre of kindle in a giant flaming hot tinderbox surrounded by so many tribes you could spend a lifetime trying to count them, all just WAITING for a reason to attack one another. It's near Sudan, a country China has a massive interest in, etc. Intervening would blow the whole continent up and might even start a war between larger nations.

  13. #165392012-03-07 19:15:18 *Nandaba said:


    almost sounds like you're trying to justify doing nothing at all because of the fact that we're each incapable of tackling all the issues at once (ie: Kony, Ugandan government, sponsoring of war lords, etc).

    Nope! I'm saying that before doing something one has to at least look further and realize that it's being tackled the wrong way. The video clearly shows "Okay this guy is killing people" when he hasn't been doing so for years. Does that make him any less guilty? Of course not! But these aren't the issues Uganda is going through right now. It's like donating to clean the WTC rubble lying on the streets of New York in 2012. Kony became a non-issue for Uganda years ago, and the video should be tackling something like the Museveni regime instead, and yet the guy in the video seems to be the buttbuddy of the Ugandan dictatorship and their women-raping defense force. (Leaving alone the tidbit where the parliament is considering Invisible Children as a Number One "International Fraudulent Organization" in their list)

    That said, I have to imagine that they've put at least A LITTLE thought into the approach.

    An organization that's keeping 70% of donations to themselves (instead of being reasonable like keeping only 10% like every other NGO would, Red Cross keeping something like 2%) doesn't sound that they're caring too much about thought.

    Why don't you use that big ol' sexy brain of yours to work on coming up with a solution instead of only hating on other attempts to solve these complex problems?

    Because if I came up with a solution I wouldn't be arguing on the Internet about it, I'd be aiming for the juicy one million given for the Nobel Peace Prize. But one can very clearly see with juuuust a little bit of research that this entire activist campaign reeks of bullshit. Getting innocent college kids to throw wads of dollars to impoverished African kids is not going to do the job! There are shitloads of different ways you can help instead.

    The problem isn't being oblivious, the answer isn't being aware. You can't deny it helps, but it actually doesn't change anything because it's not enough. You could say that the problem is that Americans/Non-Africans/White people think that its their job to save Africa but it can be a stretch depending on where you see it - although you cannot deny that Uganda's/Africa's portrayal in the video (and the previous video made by the same guy a few years ago) is based on dumbshit idealization. Everybody has to get past the initial hysteria and consider if what they are doing is right. Becoming a social activist after watching a 25 minute viral video is certainly not how it goes.


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