Wut

From a biological point of view homosexuality is a disease simply because it prevents the affected humans from reproducing, the only biological point in life.

But that doesn't make a lot of sense if you start asking "why reproduce" and "where does it all go". In the end, only our subjective perception of life matters and what we make of it.

So yeah. It is only a disease if all that matters is ensuring a biological footprint. I don't see it as such. Homophobes should just stop caring about other people's genitalia so much.

oks from your description. i gather that this is not a group that promotes homophobic propaganda. beleave it or not @Gargron there are ppl who would prefer to be strait. its all a matter of free choice. a person can chose to be gay or strait. sure there are some who where born with a predisposition to be gay. but that dusnt mean that by they must succumb to the sexual feelings that they feel. if they chose to join a church that dusnt view homosexuality as ok then they can choose to eather abstain from sexual contact or try to reverse such feelings. or they can leave the church all together.

here is a vid that explains y some jews may find it simpler to try to become strait that change their faith.

@crazymexican: So if I decided that women are too much trouble and I want to be gay, can I go to gay camp? I mean, is that okay? Is that possible and/or socially acceptable? Does it work both ways?

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there are ppl who would prefer to be strait. its all a matter of free choice. a person can chose to be gay or strait. sure there are some who where born with a predisposition to be gay. but that dusnt mean that by they must succumb to the sexual feelings that they feel. if they chose to join a church that dusnt view homosexuality as ok then they can choose to eather abstain from sexual contact or try to reverse such feelings. or they can leave the church all together.

...Are you fucking serious? Really? Reeeeeeaaaaaalllllllllllllyyyyyyyy?

I honestly don't see too much wrong with it. People have varied opinions on absolutely everything. Besides, it is a Jewish organisation (and it states outright in the Bible that homosexuality is a sin); they are going to have that opinion on homosexuality. They have every right to have something like this. It is far from being as bad as some other organisations out there, anyways.

I think the only problem I have with this is that it says homosexuality is a disease, which is complete bullshit. Obviously.

@Trev actually i have friends that after having numerous bad experiences with women have decided to date men. are ppl gonna hate you if u decide to date men? yes some will. but i believe that no one is fully gay or strait. sure they might lean towards a certain gender more. but in the end they decide who to date based on attraction and morals.

@Decae ya i found that offensive too

@crazymexican -- The point I was trying to make is this.

I think as far as "preferences" go, it sort of straddles the middle ground between being a "choice" and not. Take, for example, religion. If you really truly deep down believe in what your religion tells you, then you believe it. You didn't "decide to" unless you are lying to yourself. Likewise with faith, or lack thereof. I didn't decide not to be Christian, I just one day evaluated what I truly believe deep down inside and discovered that I wasn't. I would say that faith is not a choice.

Compare that to a preference. You can decide to drink diet soda or not to, and whichever information you base your decision on is entirely up to you. Your soda preference is a choice.

But sexual preference/orientation is sort of dependent on what you like, and who you're attracted to. And is that really the sort of thing that is in a person's control? I don't think so. And I don't think that an indoctrinated person in this regard will necessarily live a happier life, or be free of the previous attractions.

Even if someone possesses such ignorance that they believe homosexuality can be 'cured', why don't we start with diseases that are actually KILLING PEOPLE first...

Everyone's entitled to their beliefs obviously... but when people are dying from actual infectious diseases... suddenly the 'institution of marriage' seems like less of a priority.

Meh, I know why they did it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkL9SB06Tpc

But I don't think homosexuals can be 'cured'. It just doesn't work that way.

Sexuality imo, is only a bunch of 'labels' people put on other people or themselves. They don't really represent the 'real' sexuality; which is that people love certain types of people. Gender-based attraction is fairly a recent thing if compared to the whole history of mankind.

I guess it's ok to want to help homosexuals 'cure' their homosexuality, but it has to be their choice if they want to go through with it. I don't believe that it can be cured though. I don't even believe that it is a disease in the first place.

Seems legit.

...wut?

now it is.

@crazymexican I don't think it is that easy, I understand if someone doesn't want to be persecuted because they are gay, so they want to be publicly "straight" but it is something you desire and want. It is your sexual preference and there is nothing wrong with that if it is what you truly want. I can't imagine pretending to be gay or wanting to be gay if we lived in a society where the tables were turned. You are who you are be proud and live your life.

@Gargron wouldn't it be more of a disorder than a disease?

@Noodle You're right. A disease would mean "contagious" so a disorder is more appropriate.

@Sakima u are going in a different direction with that. see what jonah is trying to do is help those who want to follow all the rules of Judaism to stop sinning in that sense. according to the Hebrew scriptures having homosexual attractions isn't wrong. its not advised but it isn't wrong. what the law states is homosexual relationships are wrong. see when it comes to sexuality and religion. its all about faith. how much do u want to honor your faith? are u willing to sacrifice your sexual relationships for your relationship with god?