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  1. What makes you you? (Question #4 lolnotreally)

    #35469 • 2012-08-12 20:09:18 * • Noodle said:

    You wake up one day beside another you. A crazy, mad scientist stands at the side of your bed, smiling like a maniak. He says, "one of you are a clone. The other one is the original. You both share the exact same memories and physical features. Which one of you is the original?" Then he leaves.

    So, which one is the original? How could you be sure you are not the clone?

    No, we need to go deeper.

    Have you read Gantz? No? Well, never mind. If you die, and then a machine spits out the latest backed up version of you, would that be concidered reviving? Why not?

    Isn't this happening all the time, just in smaller scale? Ie. cell regeneration?

    Do you believe in souls?

  6. #35483 • 2012-08-12 22:50:41 • Senkonna said:

    No, we need to go deeper.

    Believe me, I told her the same thing, but she was all "NO, NO, MY VAGINA'S GONNA TEAR COMPLETELY IF YOU GO ANY DEEPER."

  7. #35485 • 2012-08-12 23:32:07 * • T-man said:

    Meh I beileve in the five bodys and im not talking chakra athough it is involved in the five bodys. The five bodies are flesh, mind, soul, energy, and emoition. Each human contains these bodies and through each others eyes we can see what were realy made of because the eyes are the windows of the body. Eyes are never the same even if it was a perfect clone it would not give off the same soul.

  8. #35490 • 2012-08-12 23:58:28 • TokoyamiSenshi said:

    I would opt for the Darwin approach in this case; and kill the other me. Even if the original gets owned, at least the new me is more adapted to it's environment.

  10. #35497 • 2012-08-13 00:43:52 * • T-man said:

    for killing a clone bet I could think of a few laws to pin that scientist with

    did not consend did not cosend

    hmmmmmm if you kill a clone of yourself is it muder or suicide

  14. #35506 • 2012-08-13 01:50:04 * • Fieyr said:

    So, which one is the original? How could you be sure you are not the clone?

    Well, assuming such a scenario was possible that an exact duplicate was created...there should be no way to tell the difference. However, that would require the clone be placed beside you while it was not yet... for lack of a better word... 'on'. Once the clone begins its existence as an entity separate from you, aware of itself and its surroundings, the mere fact that it does not occupy the same space as you changes its perspective as well as what information it stores in memory. Therefore, in order to have this work, the clone would have to not only be a perfect copy of you... but also be placed in the bed and THEN turned on. If either of you had a memory of getting into bed with yourself, then it would be obvious who was the clone. I guess that whole point is obvious. If these conditions were met though, then yeah, there's no way to tell the difference that I can see immediately.

    would that be concidered reviving? Why not?

    No I wouldn't consider that reviving. I suppose it depends on your definition of reviving, but to me, reviving implies continuing the life of the original such that the original would retain the memories of whatever caused them to encounter a situation where they would need to be revived in the first place. Otherwise... it's not revival... but rather creation.

    Isn't this happening all the time, just in smaller scale? Ie. cell regeneration?

    Fuzzy area for me. I'll let someone who knows more about it answer :P

    Do you believe in souls?

    Souls, just due to their very definition, imply the supernatural. For me, the brain seems completely capable of storing whatever information it needs to for retrieval at any time throughout the life of the organism. It's only after that organism dies that the supernatural soul even becomes necessary in order to preserve the being in a non-corporeal form in order to accommodate an afterlife scenario.

    If that's the case, then unless the soul is a metaphor for your existence in the afterlife, it seems like the soul as a vessel to store everything that is you (while still alive), seems somewhat redundant if your brain is already performing that task.

  16. #35606 • 2012-08-13 11:08:19 • 39 said:

    @Noodle Your question is interesting but hard to reply. For me, I believe in soul. Even if I was a clone myself I would not know it, right? So I might do my best on my own way.

  17. #35607 • 2012-08-13 11:23:33 • Noodle said:

    @Fieyr To simplify the question about cell regeneration.

    If you have a computer/car and each month you buy a new part to replace an old one with, is it still the same computer when you have changed every part?

    The thing that triggered this question for me was that I've read that over a ten year period every cell in our body will die and regenerate. That means that ten years ago you consisted almost completely of different cells. Does that mean the 10 year old me is 'dead'? I read into this and found some text about a part of the brain which never regenerates in any way. I guess that makes immortality impossible? Because even if you made the brain regenerate, would it really be you who survived?

  18. #35609 • 2012-08-13 11:46:03 • Lycan said:

    Two of me? Gurl das crazy. The me who kills the other me in a fair fight is the only one with the right to live.

    That, or the one who bites the other ones ear first. He gets to be the alpha male in our two man pack/ one man army.

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