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7.5 billion more around. And the whole thing is not about people, it's about political messages around it and how it can be used.
I mean, it's just 49 people.
@mizlily they got oscar? Not bad. Well, I only saw 4 out of 8 nominated movies. KKK movie is fun, and based on really fun event, but its racial issues are actually over-exaggerated as all fuck. This movie definitely would count as less entertaining, but it's more mature. So it's a decent one for best picture.
Green Book (2018)
I have to say immediately - holy fuck, I did not even recognize Viggo in this one. He got so fat!
Seriously now. The story for the movie was written by Nick Vallelonga - son of Tony, played here by Viggo Mortensen. And he got the story directly from father and from Don Shirley, so... you can say, this is as good source of information as can be within one family.
Of course, movie like that got the article on my preferred site, and interestingly enough, a lot seems to be pretty true. Tony was racist before this road trip, the green book was an actual thing, Tony REALLY did eat 26 hot dogs (amazing feat!), they really ended up in jail and had to call Robert Kennedy, and even the letters were true - for letters in the movie Nick used the real letters his father wrote to his mother.
There are, of course, some things that were changed. Most notably, the movie crams the story in the span of 2 months, while the actual driving job last for mote than a year. Obviously, here it is done for the limits of the movie story. Another major thing is the scene in YMCA. The bribe was real, but scene with Don being handcuffed was not (at least according to the information), so this is a very clear dramatization of events.
All in all, few things were not to the truth, but most of the movie is, and this is a great example of making real events into a good road movie with strong morals.
But in truth, I was only getting warmed up before the other true story movie!
Bohemian Rhapsody (2018)
So, let's get this out of the way immediately - Queen is my favorite band and I will spit poison in the eyes of anyone questioning their greatness. So, of course I was both interested in seeing this movie, and worried about band representation.
Before I would go ahead with historical accuracy talk, I do want to say that the movie looks fucking gorgeous. Fabulous. And, by definition of the theme itself, it has the great fucking soundtrack, woven into the story. I actually was pleased with how actors looked, representing the band - I didn't think they would pull off such likeness, but they did, and I am pleased by this.
Okay, to facts now! Of course, for this movie the usual historical site got the article and... well, to be honest, there's A LOT of dramatization and changes. Meeting the band members? Not true to reality. Meeting girlfriend? Not true to reality. Asshole EMI producer? Not real. Queen splitting up? Nope. Got together for Live Aid concert? Nope, reunited before that. Meeting last boyfriend? Not true at all.
Holy fuck, that's a lot of incorrect information. Things that are somewhat true are... well, the general timeline. Though, the AIDS diagnosis time and breakup with evil boyfriend happened at different years than in the movie. Sexuality questioning is apparently shown fairly true, though simplified.
True thing are Mary staying as Freddie's friend thought his life, truth is Rhapsody being dangerous experimental overly long song. And it was and is fucking great! Truth is how awesome the Live Aid performance was. Truth is how much Freddie loved cats, which is something I had no idea about, and I respect him more now both as artist and dedicated cat lover.
All in all, the movie, as a show, is majestic and impressive. I wouldn't say it's a very good true story representation, though, as a lot of changes were made for overall dramatization. Still would recommend to watch. For music and cats.
Front Runner (2018)
This one got Hugh Jackman in it!
No facts from the usual site today, so we got an article from Time instead. So... okay, to be honest, I can't say much about how true or not true the representation is. Obviously, this was a widely covered media event of sorts, so we can imagine that interviews and public appearances are probably close to truth. Personal life and personal relationships? No idea in this case.
I do like how movie tries to stay kinda ambiguous in what happened and even drops the 'CIA' involvement idea. So I imagine movie tries to play with idea of nobody really knowing IF something happened or not, even to this day. Even though, it seems, everyone already made an opinion.
To be honest, this story wasn't very interesting to me, but it shows the event that marked switch into journalistic ethics and practices, which is also mentioned in the movie in a way. And I wasn't aware of that, so at least I have learned something.
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Which was never followed in 9 years, so go fuck yourself.
Hey, at least you're making threads.
And how is this shitposting a good thing?
First Man (2018)
So, this one is pretty big. Famous movie, famous events, a lot of responsibility there for the execution.
Of course the usual site got a lot to say. Apparently, movie is based on the only official biography or Armstrong, and it does feel like it been given a lot of attention to detail. Of course, there are some things that are quite not true - the stuff left on the Moon being the biggest. But the events, the preparation, the political tension at the time, seems to be pretty close to life.
From personal opinion - movie at times feels a bit like disaster movie. So much shit goes wrong, and it's not something I thought about before, when thinking about Moon landing before, but all the stuff that went wrong - actually went that wrong in real life too. Also there's quite a lot of drama within Armstrong's family, and correctness of that we won't ever really know, but that's obviously necessary details for a movie to have.
All in all, strong dramatic movie pretty closely following strong dramatic real events.
@mizlily well, for me the interesting point was the effect on environment. Personally I don't mind idea of concentrated spaces dedicated to producing smth - meat in this case - but if it affects the outside... then it's a different thing. So that was the point I didn't really think of, really.
Also there was a segment about some weird fucked up lab where they were doing strange experiments, and that part might be considered gore-y... maybe? I dunno, could be. Again, this is something that was new to me.
Stuff about animals being genetically modified and kept in bad conditions - that's pretty much common knowledge these days, so nothing new there.